Blocked From Editing Wikipedia - Last Straw? Writing About NASA's Science Goal Search For Possible Habitats For Life On Mars

I am writing this as someone who has given my time voluntarily to help Wikipedia for a decade, doing my best to improve their encyclopedia, mainly in areas of science, astronomy, and microtonal music. My work ranged from fixing minor errors through to contributing several new articles.

As a result of a sudden unexpected action taken against me by another editor a few days ago, I am now indefinitely blocked from any editing of Wikipedia. This has happened to many good faith editors there. It happens so easily. I think this is a major issue with Wikipedia that gets too little attention. Few even know that this is going on. Here is what I see now if I try to edit my own user page on Wikipedia

It is the same if I try to edit any page there except my own talk page.

The final "straw" that lead to the block was that a year and a half ago, I added an article on possibilities for present day habitats for life on Mars. Some of you may not know this. Things have moved on so far in our understanding of Mars in the last decade that this is now a top Mars science goal for NASA It's also a top goal for ESA (the European Space Agency) too. You may not have noticed the publicity and conference announcements, unless you are keen on Mars or astrobiology, and of course most Wikipedia editors don't know about it.

It's no wonder blocks like this happen so often. Any editor on Wikipedia can ask for any other editor to be blocked or topic banned at any time. They have to tell you what they did on your talk page, but typically they don't wait for you to turn up at your sanction debate before they start voting. The debate proceeds by votes and allegations, often false.

In these debates other editors often get in a passion about what they think you did. In my case, adding this material on possible present day habitats on Mars, and other "offences" equally silly. Unless you are very fast to respond to the announcement, you are likely to see several votes to ban or block you already when you turn up at your sanction debate. It's like being a character in the Red Queen "Off with his head" episode from Alice in Wonderland! Sentence first, proper evidence checking, never.

I don’t wish this to be about any particular Wikipedia editors. The problem is endemic and I’ve seen it in several cases there. I have to link to the debate for verification but don’t mention any editors involved in by name in this article. I also discuss another particularly silly case, of Clarawood123

I am writing this a few days after the event. I think mine is a particularly clear case of this process. There is no immediate appeal process. You can appeal six months later, but it doesn't work to try saying the original allegations were false, because by convention the admins are always right in these cases. You can only appeal apologizing and promising to be a good editor in the future. However, I hope this can help others to avoid getting into this situation themselves, and to see the warning signs before it happens.

I will end this with some suggestions about how this could be avoided by a drastic revision of how such cases are decided, for instance with a preliminary evidence checking phase and a requirement to wait for an editor to respond before voting. However, it is unlikely that the admins would adopt such a radical change. The main people who would vote for this are the sanctioned editors. Blocked editors have no voice there. Topic banned editors - prohibited from writing about a topic of interest - are very restricted in what they can say about their own topic ban, so wouldn't have a voice in a vote, at least, not about the topic on which they are banned.

However, I also give some suggestions of ways that Wikipedia editors in good standing can help improve the situation at least a bit, at grass roots level. Perhaps some of you who are Wikipedia editors can use those tips to help others there who may be in the same situation as I was a few days back, right now.

CONTENTS

PATHOS AND ETHOS INSTEAD OF LOGOS

Those most likely to be sanctioned are active editors who work in the most error prone areas of Wikipedia. If you rarely do much there, or work in non contentious areas of the encyclopedia, you are unlikely to be sanctioned except for trolling or vandalism. The voters, and the closing admins make decisions that significantly impact on the reliability of the encyclopedia. In my case there are several serious errors in minor articles that won't be fixed because of my block, the opposite, they compound the errors, for instance, by removing nearly all material from Wikipedia about the science goal of searching for habitats for present day life on Mars.

Their decisions also impact on the lives of other editors, for years, maybe their entire lifetime. This is done in fast decisions in the heat of the moment, that often take up only a minute or two of their own time, swayed by

Rather than

But they don’t have the training to realize they are doing this. For more about this distinction see Examples of Ethos, Logos, and Pathos.

My case was taken to WP:ANI - a community sanctions board, where anyone can vote for the sanction, and they don’t have to be admins. There’s another board where only admins can vote, but they also often make swift decisions based mainly on pathos and ethos rather than logos.

SANCTIONED FOR ADDING AN ARTICLE ABOUT ONE OF NASA'S TOP SCIENCE OBJECTIVES FOR MARS - AS THE LATEST OF MANY OTHER EQUALLY SILLY REASONS

The closing admin doesn’t say why I was sanctioned. All they say is

“Closing with a consensus towards an indef block, plus my own admin judgment in that direction.” - [CLOSING ADMIN]

However, here are some of the main things mentioned in the discussion as reasons to block me - I will start with the content issues, and then describe some other issues of supposed self promotion on Wikipedia - they are all nonsense. The only things I really did is that I was rather verbose in some the talk page discussions when defending my content in the disputes.:

Mars Extant Life: What's Next? to discuss the "numerous extant life hypotheses that have been advanced over the years and that have evolved in response to discoveries by on-going Mars missions"

This is the article they deleted from Wikipedia. Most voters in the delete debate gave the supposed sterility of modern Mars as their reason. It’s gone from Wikipedia now, but I copied it over into my new astrobiology wiki as: Possible Present Day Habitats For Life On Mars. As you’ll see, it is heavily cited with 267 cites. They are high quality sources too, many of them to the top astrobiologists in the field, and to NASA, ESA, DLR, the Planetary protection officers, etc etc.

Some of my regular readers here will know that I have strong views of my own in this topic area, but I did not include my views in the article. The main view presented there is the view of NASA / ESA / DLR etc.

It was taken to articles for deletion by an editor who says himself he knows nothing about astrobiology, a year and six months after it was added, on the basis that he thought it was unencyclopedic and biased. Many of the people who voted to delete it did so because of its title. Indeed some clearly didn’t click through to look at the article itself. The only “keep” was from someone who thought it was an article about Mars colonization! They can’t have read as far as the first paragraph. Most voters also knew nothing about astrobiology or Mars microhabitats, and from their comments, can't have checked the cites to NASA, ESA, DLR etc.

The basic argument for nearly all the “delete” votes was that the title doesn’t make sense, and it must be “Fringe-y” because (in their view) modern Mars is not habitable.

It might perhaps have been saved with a knowledgeable keep at that point. But then I got the main editor of Life on Mars on Wikipedia come to the debate. She claims to be an astrobiologist, but doesn’t disclose her real world identity. Her write up in the Wikipedia Life on Mars article says the surface of Mars is uninhabitable to native microbes or introduced Earth microbes here: Life on Mars#Habitability and especially here: Cumulative effects .

There she says that cosmic radiation sterilizes the Martian surface. This was indeed the view up to 2008, but to apply it to these modern discoveries is to confuse dormant and non dormant life. Before 2008 they thought that only dormant life was possible, and it is sterilized over a timescale of around 500,000 years if it stays dormant. But now they are interested in microhabitats for present day, non dormant life. The ionizing radiation levels there are equivalent to the interior of the ISS and are not sterilizing to any non dormant microbes even over century time scales.

What she says contradicts the findings of the Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group which found that even the most radiosensitive microbe such as E.coli would still have 10% of the population remain viable after exposure to ioninzing radiation through 500 years of dormancy on the Martian surface. Their report is here: . "A New Analysis of Mars "Special Regions": Findings of the Second MEPAG Special Regions Science Analysis Group (SR-SAG2)" - there a “Special region” is the planetary protection technical term for a region of the Mars surface where Earth life could potentially survive

What she says also contradicts stories like this one, where the decision was made that Curiosity can’t go right up to some dark streaks, that just possibly might be signs of habitable brines on Mars: Mars contamination fear could divert Curiosity rover

One can understand someone being a little out of date, perhaps if they are no longer involved in active research in the topic, but something strange is going on for a supposed “astrobiologist” to directly contradict MEPAG and not know what she is doing, not realize how notable that cite was, and not read the cite, and not to read the cite to the NASA science goals.

Yes, there are notable astrobiologists who think the surface of Mars is most likely sterile of life but they don’t use her argument. Also, even the most skeptical of astrobiologists are interested in these debates about potential habitats on Mars, and in searching for extant life in them if they are habitable. They expect, but can't yet prove, that the answer will be “no life”. They'd be only too delighted to be proven wrong.

You can read this truly bizarre delete debate here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern Mars habitability - Wikipedia and the article itself in my own wiki here: Possible Present Day Habitats For Life On Mars.,

That I wrote this article, and then compounded the “error” by trying to prevent it from being deleted was one of the main reasons they gave for considering me to be a disruptive editor that needs to be shown the door and blocked from editing Wikipedia.

I posted this to my Facebook timeline once it became clear they were going to delete the article:

I also added a Facebook comment: “NASA can save several billion dollars right there :). Just ask those 15 wikipedians who know better than NASA.”

Walpola Rahula

Prayudh Payutto, regarded as a brilliant top Buddhist scholar in Thailand. You can see a photo of him here: Buddhist texts go digital

For Tibetan Buddhism, one of the main sources is the 14th Dalai Lama who is regarded as a distinguished scholar by Tibetan Buddhists. He has written many books on Buddhism in English, with the help of translators, and is expert on all four of the main schools of Tibetan Buddhism.

He attained the highest degree in Tibetan Buddhist scholarship at the young age of 23:

“At 23, His Holiness sat for his final examination in Lhasa’s Jokhang Temple, during the annual Great Prayer Festival (Monlam Chenmo) in 1959. He passed with honors and was awarded the Geshe Lharampa degree, equivalent to the highest doctorate in Buddhist philosophy”

Brief Biography | The 14th Dalai Lama

Here is a rare documentary with video of his final “viva” examination in Lhasa at five minutes in. It normally requires at least 16 years to complete all the studies needed for the higher Lharampa degree (the Tsorampa degree takes 11) - see Geshe, and it can take far longer - in that video they say it often takes 30–40 years.

The 2014 articles used the Dalai Lama and many other Tibetan Buddhist experts for Tibetan Buddhism.

This was not my own content. Written by others. All I'd done is wikignoming, fixing a broken link. I ended up topic banned from the Buddhism topic area in Wikipedia indefinitely. Just for talking on the talk pages, trying to persuade other editors that the material needs to be restored in some form. I did not try to edit any of the articles myself, even to restore sections of the old material, Other editors tried but their edits were immediately reverted. My only edit in recent years was to add a WP:POV tag to one of the articles - alerting a reader that the neutrality of the article was disputed. This tag was soon removed by the other editors who said the neutrality was not disputed(?!).

You can get an idea of the views of the current main editors in the Wikipedia Buddhism project, by a discussion they had with an editor attending a masters in a Buddhist studies program. He tried to edit the Buddhism article on Anatta, "non self". All his edits were reverted for citing Bhikkhu Buddhist scholars (a Bhikkhu just means a Buddhist monk, i.e. a scholar who has taken monastic vows of celibacy etc).

He wrote

“I am amazed at your claim that Bhikkhu Bodhi would not qualify as a reliable source. Bodhi is the President of the Buddhist Publication Society, Kandy Sri Lanka. He is the author of several of the most highly cited (Springer Citation index says it is more than 100, Google scholar says more than 115) translations of the various Nikayas of the Pali Canon. Citations of Bodhi include people like Richard Gombrich, D J Kalupahana and many others. …

“…But the criteria you mention (rejecting widely read scholars on Buddhism) is nowhere understood in academia and in fact goes completely against good academic policy. In religion, those that practice the religion know much more than those who just publish to increase their h-index….”

To which he got this response:

“Bhikkhu Bodhi, Bhikkhu Analayo, and Thanissaro Bhikkhu indeed are not reliable sources” [EDITOR A]

….

“Regarding ‘religious knowledge’: Wikipedia is not about religious knowledge, it's about verifiable information. Please do read WP:RS. If you think that "the words of the reputed scholar monk override those of the academic", then don't edit Wikipedia, but do start your own blog. As a Dutch administrator stated: ‘Being enlightened is not a criterium for Wikipedia; reliable sources are.’”[Editor B]

“Now I don't think we can say that all books or articles by scholars who are also Buddhist monks, nuns or religious teachers are poor or unreliable sources as some seem to be trying to argue. Of course where scholar who is also a Buddhist practitioner is primarily writing in his/her role a Buddhist teacher or for a publisher of Buddhist books they will likely be presenting only, or mainly, the Insiders view which may (at least for outsiders) be one sided or biased, but if that same scholar is working in a modern academic setting and writing an article for a peer reviewed journal or a book for a serious academic publisher, which have different sorts of standards, then they may be presenting a more neutral view.” [Editor C]

Full conversation here.

This is yet another example, Karma in Buddhism as it was in 2014, and as it is now. It should be clear at a first glance, that it's a major rewrite. Of course Karma is a central concept in Buddhism too. There was no consensus decision to change them, or even any preliminary discussion of the proposal, as would be normal before such an extensive rewrite.

We think that these editors have misinterpreted the Wikipedia guidelines on use of secondary sources. The guideline says sources are not necessarily independent or third-party sources. This refers you to Wikipedia:Party and person, which is a supplement to the guidelines. There you read:

“’Secondary’ does not mean ‘independent’ or ‘uninvolved’. Most independent sources are not secondary sources.”

Indeed, often the “independent” non Buddhist academic sources they now use are putting forward some particular thesis of their own. It is usually part of an on-going academic debate with many views on the matter by other academics. On our reading of the guidelines, this makes them primary rather than secondary sources in the sense of the Wikipedia guidelines.

However, there is nothing can be done about it. Just before my final indef topic ban on Buddhism, it was already clear that the process could be taken no further.

We have used Dorje108’s versions of these articles as the central material for a new Encyclopedia of Buddhism based on the Wikipedia content, as you are permitted to do if you attribute it correctly. It’s here: Encyclopedia of Buddhism and you can read our perspective on what happened here: EOB:About the origin of this site.

It is so relaxing to just be able to write about it without all this nonsense about having to justify using the Dalai Lama, Walpola Rahula, etc, as sources on central topics in Buddhism! Dorje108 writes the articles on central topics in Buddhism. You can get to them from its Main page - Encyclopedia of Buddhism. My main role is importing and vetting biographies. I also contributed a much expanded biography of Milarepa, one of the most famous figures in the history of Tibetan Buddhism, which I have been working on from May to August 2018. It has some details from modern scholarship that may surprise any of you who only know the traditional story of his life. We work together on the technical side, e.g. writing some of the templates, adding extensions and so on.

They also claimed I was involved in using Wikipedia for purposes of profit, This naturally enough is a serious allegation to make about another editor. There is no truth to this either. Although not directly relevant to content, it's another example of the bizarre "Sentence first, evidence later" approach used in these debates. This was their supposed “evidence”:

THE ONLY THINGS I DID DO - MAINLY, LONG COMMENTS ON TALK PAGES

Things I did do:

The rest is nonsense. I didn't do any of those things they alleged.

AVOIDED A SITE BAN - HURRAY!

They made several other points, equally silly. This is the conclusion of the discussion, starting with my response to some of their allegations (see the complete discussion for what I’m responding to), scroll down to the end to see their response to my suggestion of a wikignoming wikibreak:

[Not in my original text: “The elusive and bashful Wikignome” - goes around Wikipedia doing minor fixes of text. Got the image here: Nisse d apres nature ill jnl fal. [ Wikipedia:WikiGnome - Wikipedia]

I'll be working on talk page technique, encyclopedic tone, and WP:NPOV on other wikis where I am an editor in good standing. And I think it would be best for me not to comment further here, unless someone specifically requests a response. Robert Walker

(talk) 03:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

[Not in the original text LPL 2017-02-17.png — Wikipédia]

So, that’s it done. I’m indef blocked, but at least I avoided a site ban.

NO TRUE APPEAL PROCESS

Now, they almost never accept an appeal on the basis that the original judgement was mistaken. It is “set in stone”. So, there is absolutely no prospect of appealing it by saying to anyone on Wikipedia what I said in this blog post. Once admins make a decision like this, the Wikipedia custom is that it is their final decision, never to be questioned. #

This makes some kind of sense actually, when you consider it from the admins' point of view - but is frustrating for those wrongly topic banned or blocked. They want to make it clear that it's not a legal process. They have no authority for that. It is just sys-ops deciding who has permission and who doesn't, to edit Wikipedia. This is something they do have the authority to do, as sysops for a website owned by the Wikimedia foundation. They don't want to have to revist past decisions, and are only interested in what can be done to move on if an editor wishes to return to Wikipedia.

So though you can technically “appeal” it’s not really an appeal as in the sort of appeal you can make in a legal case where you could show the evidence was flawed or that the judge made a mistake. In practice, any attempt to say you know what you did and it was not wrong, and to ask them to re-examine the evidence, just leads to the appeal being thrown out on the spot for “relitigating”.

YOUR "APPEAL" HAS TO CONSIST OF AN APOLOGY - OR AT LEAST - SHOW YOU WILL BE A GOOD EDITOR IN THE FUTURE

In practice at least, the best way back is to apologize and say you have improved and will never again do whatever it was they said you did. In my case I would not want to apologize for trying to save the Buddhism articles, for trying to save the material on planetary protection, for trying to save my Modern Mars habitability article, or for telling the others in the debate that NASA’s Objective B in its first science goal is to search for extant life. It would be bizarre to apologize for any of that.

I can apologize for making some talk page posts that were too long, also for too many minor edits of posts after posting. So, you can do that, look for something you did that you can apologize for. If you can’t apologize, because that would be too silly and would be lying, the way to get unblocked is to just show in some way that you will be a good editor and not mention your past “transgressions”.

With that background, how can I say I have changed given that they say in the debate leading up to the sanction that

“a wikibreak could only gift you with the power of concise teamwork through use of a golden lamp and benevolent genii”?

By answering:

“Look I found a golden lamp and a benevolent genii” ?:).

Free Image on Pixabay - Genie, Lamp, Magic, Cute, Ghost

But I suppose if I do lots of work on WikiNews where I’m an editor in good standing and come back and show them pages of conversations where I have been involved in good team work? And show that I have made short comments,using the opportunity to learn to do short talk page posts there? Maybe? After all, the closing admin doesn't actually say what I was sanctioned for. So I could appeal based on the only thing that I accept that I did do.

That’s my best bet, and using that approach it’s possible I can get back in six months. However, for now, I've not got any plans to appeal and I do not wish to get involved in thinking about how I might return and what I might be able to do by way of editing Wikipedia without getting re-sanctioned, if they let me back.

It's actually very relaxing for me to visit Wikipedia, and know that I can't edit it :). I have so many past bad experiences there. And it is not through me abandoning the project. It's through the project deciding it doesn't want me. For me that makes a big difference as my wish is to help them still - nothing has changed about that. But I no longer have any way to do it via editing and that is very relaxing.

BLACK COMEDY - COULD ONLY LAUGH

This whole thing started out with what I thought would be a simple and straightforward topic ban appeal against my Buddhsim topic ban. First, I unwisely started the topic ban appeal soon after that Clathrate Gun Hypothesis disucssion had come to a close with my comments ignored by the other editor. That article was my first edit revert in over a year. The timing could have been better (irony), but it never occurred to me that they would refer to it in the topic ban appeal.

So then, I hought I could share my article on Milarepa as a biography I'd spent several months on, that was the best work I could do, and in a topic area far removed from the dispute. Surely I could edit in biographies without disturbing the editors who deleted that 2014 content, I thought, as they never seem to edit in that topic area of Buddhism. Also the Wikipedia article had a template at the top of the page identifying issues to be fixed which I felt my bio solved.

But one of the editors responded by furiously rewriting the Wikipedia article on Milarepa mid appeal, using ideas from my bio to fix the article. At the same time, I'd given my Modern Mars Habitability article as an example of my best work outside of the Buddhism topic area in the appeal. Another editor responded by taking my Modern Mars habitability to Articles for Deletion. This was mid-appeal so I had to deal with a topic ban appeal and an AfD at the same time. Then, in the middle of the article for deletion debate, and almost immediately after my topic ban appeal was rejected, I got taken back to ANI, initially because of my attempts to defend the MMH article from deletion. And finally they decided to delete my Tune Smithy article, so that lead to another AfD to respond to.

I got upset at the height of the proceedings, but one morning after everything had suddenly piled up - topic ban appeal going wrong, attacked for my treatment of the biography of Milarepa (for silly reasons), AfD, then finally, the indef block, overlapping - it became so extreme it was like a black comedy. I could no longer take it seriously, and I couldn't help but laugh at that point. From then on it just began to seem silly. The final AfD on Tune Smithy was more of the same.

Nothing I could do, but after a certain point, I couldn't really take it seriously, as it was so absurdly over the top.

For a post I did in the middle of it all, this is just after that moment when it suddenly began to seem silly and funny: :

For those three ways of reasoning:

BIZARRE CASE OF CLARAWOOD123

I'd like to look at another clear and rather strange case. It is possible to edit wikipedia for years without any problems. Much of wikipedia is excellent. But then you can run into crazy opposition by these editors who turn out to have immense power within the tiny world of a small subsection of wikipedia. When you tangle with them, it’s like suddenly ending up in a hall of mirrors, like Alice through the Looking Glass.

This is the bizarre case of Clarawood123 who after 80 edits found themselves attacked on all sides for the heinous crime (being ironic there) of writing about the place where they live. They were warned that this is a “conflict of interest” and eventually after a number of other bizarre incidents, were forced to leave wikipedia. All on the basis of those 80 edits of their first ever article in wikipedia.

“But “glory” doesn’t mean “a nice knock-down argument,” - Alice objected.

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.

Part of Alice’s conversation with Humpty Dumpty in Lewis Carroll’s “Alice through the Looking Glass “

They tangled with EditorJ. This is the same editor who warned me that they would take me to AE if I continued to ask them to include a mention of Marianne Middleveen’s research in the Morgellons talk page.

Anyway, when I talked about this to a wikipedia editor friends off wiki, I learnt that I was right to take this editor very seriously. So that’s how I found out about EditorJ’s extraordinary message to Clarawood123.

A “CONFLICT OF INTEREST” TO WRITE ABOUT THE PLACE WHERE YOU LIVE???

Clarawood123 joined in January 2016, and this happens after only 80 edits of wikipedia. It’s their first article, and not surprisingly, all their edits are edits of this article, about the housing estate in Ireland where they live called Clarawood, which also naturally enough they took as a wikipedia user name.

If you live in the US a bit of background may help. Here in the UK, large estates like this are typically built by the government, rather than private contractors. So it’s just like writing about the village you live in.

EditorJ tells them on their talk page that they have a conflict of interest because they live there! He warns them that they should learn to concede to the better judgement of people who don't live in Clarawood and have never seen the place! He also warns them of a possible financial conflict of interest if they own property in Clarawood - a UK reader will take this as meaning, a conflict if you own a house in Clarawood. It’s quite the most bizarre wikipedia episode I’ve ever seen.

"Hi Clarawood123. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia and my attention was called to your situation by the ANI filing. Apparently nobody has talked with you about what we call "conflict of interest" in Wikipedia, which is pretty clearly at the root of the problems you are experiencing. You made it clear in this comment[] that you are "a very long term resident of Clarawood with direct experience", and every edit you have made has been about Clarawood. I'm giving you notice of our conflict of interest guideline and will have some comments and questions for you below.

....

"As I noted above, it is clear from your username, your editing, and your actual disclosure that you are a long time resident of Clarawood. It is not clear to me if you own the place where you live and have an actual financial conflict of interest, but it is clear that you are very invested in how people see Clarawood, and in your notions about it. This connection to Clarawood - your "interest" in it, is creating a conflict of interest here in Wikipedia, and that conflict is in turn driving the problems you are having with other editors. "

Wikipedia is going stark raving bonkers here!

Now EditorJ’s aggression towards Clarawood123 is based on a false assumption I think. Housing estates are not generally owned by developers here in the UK. Many were built by the government and that's the case for Clarawood. From the Wikipedia article, 313 of the estate houses remain in government ownership and 278 have been sold. At most Clarawood123 might own his or her house if it is one of those 278 houses privately owned.

So when EditorJ says

“It is not clear to me if you own the place where you live and have an actual financial conflict of interest”

- then Clarawood123 would understand that as saying “It is not clear to me if you own your own house and have an actual financial conflict of interest”.

However probably EditorJ meant “It is not clear to me if you own the Clarawood estate”. Otherwise how could they think it is a potential COI? As the conversation continues others from the US put this more explicitly, a user called “North America” of all things says “Your username implies that you represent the Clarawood housing estate.”.

It's an understandable misunderstanding once you realize the different approaches to housing development on the two sides of the Atlantic. But a friendly conversation and a few questions back and forth could have cleared that up quickly.

A bit more background. When EditorJ says

" I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia"

- that sounds like they have an official post - but no, this is just an editor who has decided they want to patrol wikipedia looking out for conflict of interest issues, they are not speaking for anyone except themselves.

As for the “ANI filing” - that was actually a filing by Clarawood123 themselves to a complaint board on wikipedia called “ANI” just the day before: Problem with admin who has erroneously accused me of disruptive editing on the page Clarawood. It's the same complaint board that got me indef blocked.

Instead of getting support and sympathy, Clarawood123 find themselves in the middle of what’s called a “boomerang” on wikipedia. You go to complain about some bad conduct, and the argument reverses and you find that everyone is complaining about your conduct instead. Though those boards are supposed to help you, editors who run into issues on wikipedia soon find out that it's best just to steer well clear of them, unless you really know what you are doing, especially if you are a newbie complaining about the behaviour of an established editor there.

So, far from getting support there, suddenly many editors they have never come across before weigh in on whether to topic ban or site ban them.

FIRST THE SENTENCE, THEN THE EVIDENCE

It’s like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland in these dispute boards on wikipedia. They really could do with the advice of someone with some experience in the judiciary. It is all back to front. The editors there are rapid to sentence you, and declare you are guilty first before they go on to examine the evidence. As happened with me, and other actions I’ve seen there - you try to defend yourself from this assumption of guilt after many people have already said you are guilty and sentenced you.

And you have no assistance. There is no system by which a neutral third party helps newbie editors to present their case. It’s like a legal case during which a member of the jury can shout out at any time “Guilty” even before any evidence is presented. You then have to try to persuade the jury to reverse their sentence. But there is no judge, only a jury, and no-one to help you mount a defense.

It’s like the episode in Alice in Wonderland with the Queen of Hearts, “No!” said the Queen, “first the sentence, and then the evidence!”

“Now for the evidence,” said the King, “and then the sentence”. “No!” said the Queen, “first the sentence, and then the evidence!” “Nonsense!” cried Alice, so loudly that everybody jumped, “the idea of having the sentence first!”

Alice's Adventures Under Ground - Lewis Carroll - British Library - original MS for Alice in Wonderland

You can read the debate here: Proposed ban / WP:BOOMERANG of Clarawood123

As you see, four editors say Clarawood123 should be topic banned, four say they should be site banned meaning prohibited from editing wikipedia at all in any topic area, and four oppose or strongly oppose. And many of them have already made their judgement before Clarawood123 learns about the case.

Probably many of them made the same assumption EditorJ made. Perhaps that’s why Clarawood123 faced so much hostility?

Then in the middle of that, they got this bizarre message on their talk page by EditorJ saying it is a conflict of interest to write about the place where you live - by an editor of the name “North America” of all things.

User talk:Clarawood123 - Wikipedia

"Welcome to Wikipedia.

"I noticed that your username, "Clarawood123", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because Your username implies that you represent the Clarawood housing estate. See WP:CORPNAME for more information. Please seriously consider creating a new account using a neutral username.

"If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you . [EditorNorthAmericaxxxx]

"… Clarawood123, you can safely ignore the above warning which I assume is based on a misunderstanding. The US (where I assume from their name Northamerica1000is from) has no tradition of centrally-planned housing and thus no real equivalent to estates, and NA1000 is probably assuming that this is a private development and you work for the developer. Northamerica1000, a British or Irish estate is for all practical purposes a government-planned village, usually complete with its own pubs, shops, churches etc (some of the larger ones like Becontree or Wythenshawe can be treated as full-blown cities in their own right); treat it as you would any other village. Estates are built by the government, not by private developers; unless you're insinuating that Clarawood123 works for the local authority, claiming a COI from the name would be like me banning you from North American articles owing to your username. [EditorI]

"(ping) EditorI and Clarawood123: I struck my message above. I assumed it was a private development. Cheers, [EditorNorthAmericaxxxx]

"Cheers Clarawood123 (talk) 08:13, 16 April 2016 (UTC)"

This user later strikes out their comment, explaining that they made a mistake. But why not ask? It’s the same thing as with the ANI discussion. They just presume guilt on the basis of slender evidence and you then have to try to prove innocence.

CLARAWOOD123 BLOCKED AS A SOCK PUPPET?!

And then finally (you can read this on their talk page as well), Clarawood123 gets blocked as a sockpuppet!

What, I’m a sock puppet? Carlb-sockpuppet-02

I.e. the admins claim that they are not a genuine person, but rather, another experienced wikipedia user masquerading as a newbie Clarawood123 in order to harm wikipedia (a sockpuppet by definition is always someone doing something harmful, the idea is that they wear the other person’s identity much like the way someone might wear a sock as a puppet on a hand).

The result of this block is that they can’t contribute anywhere on wikipedia except their own talk page, just as happened to me.

This is what Clarawood123 says when they find out that they have been blocked:

User:Bbb23 has blocked me in connection with a sockpuppet investigation of me. I have just discovered this today. There is absolutely no way any investigation of this would have been able to prove any sockpuppetry as I am a genuine account and have no connection whatsoever to the disruptive editor or anyone else. I am not able to defend myself as I have been blocked. I would like to be unblocked immediately so that I can defend myself as I have, once again, been accused of multiple things I have not done.”

This appeal is declined

"Decline reason:

Confirmed sockpuppet. And you are able to defend yourself just fine while blocked. You still have access to this page. You don't need to edit articles in order to defend yourself"

I don't for a moment think they are a sock puppet. They are so obviously genuine and a newbie too, from the way they talked and reacted, from the nature of their first article, from the understandable but naive way they tried to go to ANI with a complaint and it boomeranged - everything they did shouts out newbie wikipedia editor. How anyone could conclude that they are a sockpuppet is beyond me. Maybe they are at the same school or use the same internet provider as a confirmed sock puppet?

Imagine facing all that as a newbie user with only 80 edits, attempting your first ever article in wikipedia!

Eventually they get unblocked with a warning

“As a result of an appeal to the Arbitration Committee. However, I strongly suggest that you get consensus for any possible controversial edits “

I would imagine they have probably thoroughly discouraged this newbie editor from taking part in wikipedia. They started trying to help wikipedia in February. That final unblocking happens in June. But, naturally enough really, they haven’t contributed anything since then: User contributions for Clarawood123 - Wikipedia

I’ve seen many strange Alice through the Looking Glass conversations during my time of contributing to Wikipedia as an editor - but this one really takes the biscuit. Think how many people must get discouraged from editing wikipedia every year as a result of this absurd nonsense!

CLARAWOOD123’S ORIGINAL ARTICLE

And having said all that, well I’ll also link to their original version of the article they wrote. It’s still there in the article history. And I think it’s a nice article myself :).

Clarawood (old version as written by Clarawood123)

I can see how some of it could be said to go against the wikipedia guidelines on “original research” which in my opinion are taken way too seriously there. They take this so seriously that sometimes it seems that you can’t say that there is an ancient oak tree growing in your village green or that it has a duck pond, unless you can find a newspaper story or similar remarking on it… I can understand the reason for those guidelines but I think even at the best of times they are somewhat over enforced.

Anyway the original is much better than the latest version. And I get a bit of pleasure from sharing their original here after everything that happened to them.

Clarawood Park entrance. The editor who took this photograph and wrote the article has now been banned from wikipedia as a “sockpuppet”, a ridiculous allegation, after stirring up a hornets nest because they had the misfortune to cross paths with EditorJ.

And here is their article about it again :). Clarawood

WATCH OUT FOR MAD HATTERS AND CHESHIRE CATS

So - generally if you are in any of the more controversial areas, you may find that it’s hard to make friends on wikipedia and you may encounter a lot of hostility, and some (of course not all) of the most prolific editors there are characters that wouldn’t be out of place in a book by Lewis Carroll - Mad Hatters, Red Queens, Mock Turtles, Cheshire Cats vanishing leaving only a smile behind.

If you’ve ever been involved in this stuff you’ve probably met the equivalents of all those characters and more.

Cheshire Cat vanishing (detail) - original illustration by Tenniel.

CAN ANYTHING BE DONE ABOUT IT?

What really takes you aback when you are first taken to one of these sanction proceedings is the unrelenting hostility against you. It shows the power of pathos and a kind of lynch mob mentality. And - they don't have the training to recognize that they are doing this. It is the way things are done there by custom. They don't even realize it could be different, I think.

There should be a separate evidence giving phase. Something like this, but it is just a suggestion. A formal multi-stage process, perhaps:

  1. Anyone who has accusations should do that first.
  2. Independent fact checkers check any evidence supplied
  3. After fact checking, the person who is being sanctioned is given time to answer all the allegations.

    And given a reasonable amount of time. Not as it is now, that they have to answer within hours, and race to make a reply before the first sanction vote against them. A reasonable amount of time to set out their case, a few days.
  4. Q/A about the evidence so far and the response to it.
  5. Finally, the voting phase. During this stage, no new accusations or evidence can be added.

But the main issue is that they are following pathos rather than logos, and they are going by "gut feeling" and have no training even to recognize they are doing this. And other editors, knowing that it works that way, are not above "gaming the system" by submitting supposed "evidence" that wouldn't even stand up to a minute of scrutiny, in some cases

So, the editors need some training, maybe a series of questions and a mini course they have to do, online course, before they can vote?

And some method for independent evidence checking. Either volunteers or paid professional evidence checkers. The Wikipedia foundation spends millions of dollars a month keeping the project going. They can surely afford to hire professional evidence checkers for these sanction debates, only a few per day.

And - do something about their idea that sanctions are "set in stone" - that admins can never make mistakes. Have some sort of oversight, a proper appeal process.

The Jury (1861) painting by John Morgan- wikipedia appeal boards are like a legal system with a jury but no judge, no defendant, and on the basis of sentencing first, with the jury often meting out sentences there swiftly within minutes of filing the case, before the person accused has had a chance to reply to the accusations. Perhaps it would benefit from an overhaul and attention by people with a background in jurisprudence. Maybe it could even do with a full time paid member with jurisprudence experience.

But for that to happen, the volunteers who man wikipedia would need to agree that it needs overhaul. The admins there don’t even see that it is a problem. They don’t see all the posts and complaints by banned users because this happens off wiki.

I think this is one of the main issues holding wikipedia back at present myself.

Of course it is not a real legal system, and never can be. They have no authority to pronounce on guilt or innocence in a way a real legal system can. But - they could use some of the features that have been developed for legal systems to make the process more transparent, and fair, and to avoid sanctioning good faith editors who are working to help Wikipedia.

ArbCom is their highest authority, apart from Jimmy Wales, a dozen admins who you can go to if everything else fails. But they will only rule on procedural irregularities at present; it's not able to override decisions that are just wrong. This is called "relitigation" and an appeal can be thrown out for trying to prove that a previous sanction was mistaken.

TOO RADICAL FOR THE CURRENT ADMINS

There is no way the admins are going to decide on such radical changes by themselves. It probably has to come from a higher level in some way. The only higher level in Wikipedia is Jimmy Wales.

Don't get me wrong, must of the encyclopedia is excellent still. Even in the topic areas where these issues arose for me.

However, Wikipedia should be doing something to fix the few articles with mistakes in them. Editors like me who try to fix serious errors should be encouraged, rather than topic banned or blocked. Also we should be encouraged to try to resolve things via talk page discussions, as I did, rather than through edit wars (where editors revert each others edits to an article).

Instead we get thrown out. Meanwhile, editors who rewrite articles to fit their own ideas are encouraged. It's going in the wrong direction. Parts of Wikipedia that used to be unbiased and accurate are slowly deteriorating. Many editors who try to fix this give up quickly.

Of course Wikipedia depends on being reasonably accurate and unbiased for its success. Only Jimmy Wales could perhaps initiate such a radical change, but he has reduced his influence so much he probably can't.

Maybe, if Wikipedia can't solve this, a reset with a new encyclopedia can. All the great content is there, and licensed in such a way that anyone can re-use it, so long as they attribute the original authors with a link back to the Wikipedia pages and page histories.

But it's not going to be easy because of the vast expense of running Wikipedia, and because of the competition. Many people trust Wikipedia, and are probably less likely to read a competitor. Maybe only if Wikipedia folds up, the whole thing collapses and it is no longer available on the internet, and someone else starts up a new version to take its place? This is not likely any time soon, but it could happen if Wikipedia became less and less trustworthy to the point where people stop donating to it, as it is entirely run on donations at present.

It is fabulously expensive to run

However, they have enough money in hand to keep going for 1.5 years. And they find it easy to get more with their short campaigns which only run for a few days a year (with a header at the top of every page asking for donations). So it’s not going to fold up any time soon. And I hope it doesn't come to that.

SO WHERE IS THIS HEADED?

I think few of the regular readers of Wikipedia, or occasional editors, or the fund raisers, or the technical staff even, have any idea of what is going on behind the scenes in these sanction debates.

I think even many editors who vote on these sanctions also are unaware of what they are doing. They are voting based on emotion and pathos, but don't have the training needed to recognize what they are doing. The issues I raise here with the process itself are also ones that they clearly don't recognize as needing to be fixed.

I hope that this article can lead to more awareness of these issues, using my own example as a particularly clear case. Maybe, just possibly, something can be done about it? Of course most of us are not Jimmy Wales and he also has limits to what he can do.

WORKING ON THIS AT A GRASS ROOTS LEVEL

There is something else that we can all do about it, working from the grass roots level (well obviously not me, because I'm blocked, but any editor in good standing). That is, to take part in these community processes, but buck the trend by doing proper evidence checking, and Logos rather than Pathos. Particularly if you can keep a clear head and not be influenced by lynch mob mentality, it's possible that your impartial vote, bucking the pathos trend, may cause some people to think twice in these sanction debates.

Those debates are for experienced Wikipedians only, as they can get very technical, and there may be some risk to oneself of being attacked for defending an editor who the others have already decided should be sanctioned. I don't recommend this to newbies.

However, there are other ways one can help, including taking part in Requests for Comments, Third Opinion (on some matter in which one has expertise), Article for Deletion discussions, and the Reliable sources noticeboard.

If you want to help buck the trend and get Wikipedia back on course, ignore any lynch mob style pathos arguments and votes you may see there, and use a clear head. Re-examine the case from the start, take statements by supposed "experts" with a large pinch of salt, ask questions, either on the page or on individual users' talk pages, or it may sometimes be best done via email to avoid on wiki drama, and then add a genuine independently assessed view on the matter.

SEE ALSO

Some of the material here comes from my “Alice in Wonderland” themed:

Also