source file: mills2.txt Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 21:57:31 -0700 Subject: Psychoacoustics From: Gary Morrison <71670.2576@compuserve.com> I finally got a chance to read some of Brian's postings on psychoacoustics. I have a comment that some of you might agree or disagree with. Brian made a strong point that how people hear pitches is critical to composition, and xenharmonic composition more than traditional. I certainly agree that, even if it were a boring topic, psychoacoustics can provide valuable insights for people like us. I never would have imagined myself writing anything to detract from that premise. But uh... I guess here I am. I recall a conversation I once had with a LaRouchie (and I'm not for a bananasecond implying that Brian is a LaRouchie!), who was trying to convince me that hearing was "a complex electromagnetic process". She cited as evidence, that individual air molecules in a soundwave move far greater distances than the surface of the ear drums they excite. I just had a heck of a time trying to convince her that everything about the transmission of sound to the ear drum can be accounted for quite well by macroscopic measures like air pressure. So although applying quantum mechanics to explain the motions of galaxies may be useful in locating and proving a superunified field theory, we need to be cautious about getting too bogged down in the microscopic details of neurophysiology for practical matters such as composition. Ultimately all that matters is, "how does it sound". And I think it's only a slight oversimplification to say that what sounds like "X" to the composer, within reasonable limits, will sound "X" to an audience. At some level of detail you have to ask yourself whether knowing the exact neurophysiological reasons WHY it sounds like "X" really matters all that much. I'm certainly not disputing that there are compositionally valuable insights to be gained from mathematically modeling sound perception. Bill Sethares' timbre mapping concepts strike me as an excellent example of this. Still, sometimes forests are more meaningful than the vein structures of the individual leaves of the individual trees. Received: from eartha.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 14:12 +0100 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id FAA28422; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:11:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:11:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199510030943.GAA25024@chasque.apc.org> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu