source file: mills2.txt Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:50:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Chinese 12TET - Approximation From: Gary Morrison <71670.2576@compuserve.com> >>1. Square the guess => guess sixth root of 2. This probably should have said: 1. Square the guess of 12th root of two => guess of sixth root of 2. >>2. Square that => guessed cube root of 2. >>3. Multiply by result of step 1 => guessed square root of 2. >>4. Square that => guess of 2. Johnny K's point here is that it just doesn't take too many iterations of insightful guessing before you resolve the 12th root of 2 down to as fine accuracy as you realistically need for musical purposes. But you don't need any sort of analytical technique to choose your guesses - just intelligence. I'd probably start by noticing that 1.1, since 1.2 is almost certainly too high. 1.1 squared is 1.21, and that squared is 1.46, and that is going to square up to something close to 1.5 squared (2.25). So since 1.1 to only the eighth power is already larger than two, the twelfth power of two must be somewhere between 1.1 and 1. So, I would probably then split the difference and guess 1.05. Doing those four multiplications, I find that 1.05 to the twelfth power is 1.795..., meaning that the real twelfth root of two must be somewhat larger than that. Doing those same multiplications on 1.06 gives me something a lot closer: 2.01. For the limited purposes of very crude and/or imprecise-pitched instruments, that's about all of the precision you need. And that in only three iterations of insightful guessing, and a total of eight multiplications. Not too tough! From there I'd probably see that I'm so close that I'd probably be best off shaving just a little bit off the 1.06, and try 1.059. That then lands me at 1.9895...: Low by about the same amount by which I was high at 1.06. So I'd then try 1.0595. That puts me at 2.00083... So, after just five iterations - easily less than a day's work with multiplication on paper - I'm down to an error of less than a cent! Received: from eartha.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:41 +0100 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id IAA05341; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:40:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:40:51 -0700 Message-Id: <9510170839.aa04406@cyber.cyber.net> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu