source file: mills2.txt Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 22:20:24 -0800 Subject: Re: more Bach From: Gary Morrison <71670.2576@compuserve.com> Neil's assessment that there is sadly little xenharmonic music out there of the calibre of the great masters, reminds me of a celebrated event in Mozart's life: Early in Mozart's career, F.J. Haydn told Leopold Mozart (Wolfgang's father), "I tell you that man is the greatest composer I know". I'm reminded of that because it was a case of two highly accomplished composers accepting that they've been beat. So one composer to another, I'm inclided to tell Neil that I have to agree with his assessment - implicitly leaving both Neil's and my music out of that league. But I think it's also important to out that there's very little 12TET music out there of that calibre either! And a lot of the music that doesn't live up to that sort of standard, is still worth listening to. Louis Spohr's music strikes me personally as being in that category - it's not up to the standards of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, or Brahms, but still it's good music. And I enjoy listening to Neil's CD too. It's certainly not at Bach's level of genius, but it's lots of fun, and I think a very respectable accomplishment. And that brings me to a CD of wind serenades by Antonio Salieri. Salieri, even before the famous movie Amadeus, has been widely cited as a "bad" composer. I have to disagree. When I listen to it, I hear only a little that's just plain bad. As for the rest of it, it isn't so much that it's bad as much as that there's not much about it that's particularly good. It's just kind of "there". But I've come to the conclusion that even the great masters have their all-out bad moments too! Some of Beethoven's endings consist of little more than banging out a simple progression of primary triads over and over and over. At the end of his Eroica - perhaps one of the single most pivotal compositions in the history of Western music, I sometimes find myself wanting to yell out, "alright alright, just end it a'ready!". So, to composers I say: Take heart, keep the perspective as Neil said, and keep working for improvement. If something comes out effortlessly, ask why. It either means inspiration or lack of care. Listen to your own music as if you knew nothing about it, and try to follow the flow of intrigue through the music. IS there one (or more), or is the music just sorta "there"? Or rambling? And if there is a coherent line of intrigue, then does that line itself do something intriguing? And remember that even the great masters have SOME low points! Received: from eartha.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 18:01 +0100 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id IAA03014; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 08:00:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 08:00:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199512031558.XAA11778@hk.super.net> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu