source file: mills2.txt Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:01:25 -0700 Subject: 7HS Tuning Comments From: Gary Morrison <71670.2576@compuserve.com> I suggested that a friend at work, Bill Meadows, who does a lot of multimedia try out tuning in 7-tone-per-octave octave-repeating harmonic-series-based tuning. The ratios within each octave for this tuning are 7:7, 8:7, 9:7, 10:7, 11:7, 12:7, 13:7, and 14:7, obvious 7:7 being the unison and 14:7 being the octave. This is a tuning I've played with before, and I thought that Bill would very good at using it in the way that I concluded would be best, after I used it in a way I concluded to be less than ideal. Bill tuned it up on his Kurzweil K2500 last night and found it rather intimidating. He likes to use the phrase "out of tune" because he knows that that's inadequate to characterize a tuning except at a very high level. Anyway, here are some suggestions I made to him that perhaps some of you might want to consider playing with as well: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday afternoon I wanted to expound further on how to use that 7-step octave-repeating harmonic-series-based tuning. You said that you weren't sure how to use it, noting semijokingly that it sounded "pretty out-of-tune". My responses to that are: 1. Hey, no pain no gain! 2. Is that really any more disconcerting than the microtonal scale-step size phenomenon you like to tantalyze your audience with? I'm refering to how you described 19 to Dave E. and me ... oh, probably 9 months back: Tantalyzingly delaying an expected melodic resolution by approaching it in small microtonal steps. Is the out-of-tune nature of this tuning really all that much more disconcerting? And whether it is or not, is that a problem? 3. One thing you're really good at, and I'm not (yet) is music involving long, sustained tones with faster stuff, often repeated figures, dancing on top of the sustained chords. This tuning, I suspect, is well-suited to that sort of thing: a. You can build large chords will little chance of a clash in the minor- second/major seventh sense of the word, because the pitch relationships are very simple. b. There exists a semi-standard mixing engineer/artist's analogy of the sounds they mix to a three-dimensional space: left/right stereo gives you the left-right dimension with high- vs. low-pitch suggests top- bottom and quiet- vs. loud-volume suggests far and close. Combine that with the fact that each tone of the octave has a distinct color to it, and then play a musical, 3D version of ... Pollock was it? - the fellow who first painted with squirt-guns). 4. What it's probably not good for is what I used it for on that tape I gave you early on, with the last three movements of a Symphonietta in that tuning. In that case I tried to build classical structures - traditional instrumentation, forms, melodies - with nontraditional harmony. Well, I concluded that what I did in that regard went reasonably well, but that that style is not what this tuning is built for. 5. Since when have you been concerned with audiences thinking your music weird?! Received: from eartha.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:39 +0100 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id GAA19542; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:39:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:39:20 -0700 Message-Id: <009A52C72F5A7420.82A7@ezh.nl> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu