source file: mills2.txt Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:25:16 -0800 Subject: Cage and Experimental Music From: Daniel Wolf <106232.3266@compuserve.com> I slipped and read a MacLaren item... It is absolutely clear that MacLaren has not read John Cage himself regarding the adoption of the term _experimental_. A quick glance at _Silence_ will show that he initially rejected the name, completely aware of the scientific use of the term which he felt inapplicable to his work. The name, used by the press and some academics, did stick - much as _minimalism_ has stuck to a later group of composers - and Cage accepted this under the limited definition, that _experimental music_ involved a way of working where aspects of the outcome were unforeseen by the composer. Cage was always seeking a way of generating new or surprising music. Since so much of MacLaren´s own music ends up in a self-similar new-agey wash, I suggest that he try chance operations in order to avoid some of the effects of his own tastes or habits. In any case, in future postings, he best do his homework and read what his target has actually said before attacking in valuable computer time. I myself have found it very useful to use chance operations in exploring unfamilar tonal environments, and in one case, to determine the intonation of a work. What is abundantly clear about any such algorithmic method is, however, that the establishment of a division of responsibility between composerly choices and a random procedure requires extremely deep thinking. Anyone who has heard the Arditti quartet perrform Cage´s _FOUR_, or _Music for 4_. or _Thirty Pieces for String Quartet_ has surely realized that Cage was asking extremely deep and musical questions, and exploring a larger scale of musical form than is familiar. Daniel Wolf, Frankfurt Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:24 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA10692; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:26:23 +0100 Received: from eartha.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA10702 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id DAA02453; Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:26:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 03:26:20 -0800 Message-Id: <009AC0AF219BA7E0.4E30@vbv40.ezh.nl> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu