source file: mills2.txt Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:46:40 -0800 Subject: "Just" vs. "Pure" Again From: Gary Morrison <71670.2576@compuserve.com> > Perhaps I am missing a more subtle point Gary is trying to make. Definitely not. I read John's post as using "just" and "pure" as exact synonyms. I then responded with my opinion that I can see no point in adding "pure" into the vocabulary soup if the word "just" already has that meaning. Clearly though John did not in fact intend them as exact synonyms. I'm not sure if I follow the distinction he's suggesting between the two. Something about diatonic frameworks in particular? Can you give an example of a kind of music, tuning, or instrument that you would describe as "just" but not "pure", or the reverse? How would you characterize a tuning based on fragments of the harmonic series in those two terms (i.e., simple WNRs, but not diatonic)? Or perhaps it's not terribly important in the first place. I'm starting to think it may be best to try to use "untempered", since: 1. That word, or at least its opposite "tempered", has a specific historical meaning. 2. As we discovered several months ago, at least one authoritative dictionary (New Harvard) has a strange notion of the meaning of the term "Just Intonation". (It also uses the word "pure" without defining it, by the way.) Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 00:11 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA06495; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 00:13:54 +0100 Received: from eartha.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA06500 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id PAA28574; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:13:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:13:23 -0800 Message-Id: <32CA4259.59FB@ix.netcom.com> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu