source file: mills2.txt Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:40:06 -0800 Subject: Re: Reply to Matt. From: Matt Nathan Charles Lucy wrote: > I stand semantic correction. I had always understood "partials" > to mean multiples of a frequency. i.e frequency multiplied by an > integer. I think there must have been some historical confusion in this area; besides "harmonic", we're also left with the term "overtone" (which Helmholtz urged us to avoid about a century ago). The term "partials" seems to have straightened it out though. I'd like to know who coined it (Helmholtz, Ellis, someone more recent?). Here's a snippet which uses the terms in context. from _The Acoustical Foundations of Music_, Backus, Norton, 1969 [my comments] in brackets /italics/ in right slashes .. shows deletions begin quote " Chapter SIX TONE QUALITY .. We are now concerned with what is called the /quality/ of a tone--sometimes referred to as /timbre/--the characteristic of a tone that can distinguish it from others of the same frequency and loudness. /Partials and Harmonics/ ..The individual simple tones [sine waves, also called pure tones] making up a complex tone are called /partial tones/ or simply /partials/. For...discussion...we shall...assume that the vibrational pattern repeats exactly for an indefinite number of cycles.... For such a tone the constituent partials must be...integer multiples. Only if this is true will the waveform be the same for consecutive cycles.... Partials related in this simple way...are called /harmonics/. The partial having the fundamental frequency is called either the /fundamental/ or /first harmonic/. The partial having a frequency twice that of the fundamental is the /second harmonic/, and so on. ... The term "overtone"...introduces...confusion...it is best not to use it. /Nonperiodic tones: Noises/ ..For tones whose wavefom does not repeat each cycle, the partials need not have frequencies that are integral multiples of the fundamental frequency, and so are called /inharmonic/. " end quote > My problem with the term harmonics is that I have failed to find a > better term to describe those notes that you hear as you touch > an open guitar string gently at specific "audible" points. > (Remember, my first indtrument is guitar) > So what do we call those positions, without implying that > they MUST only occur at integer frequency ratios. The places which you touch are called "nodes". The tones you get I think are still called "harmonics" by string players (and are notated with a little unfilled circle above the note), which shows there's still potential for confusion. Note that these "harmonics" which you get by touching the string are still complex tones, which are composed of partials which may or may not be "harmonics" (simple tones related in whole numbers). As long as you show cleary which context you're writing of, we should be able to understand each other. Don't make the fallacy of blurring the multiple meanings of a word in arguing some theoretical point. BTW, the musical examples on your lullabies web site are rather beautiful, even if your theoretical proposals seem unrigorous. Matt Nathan Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:55 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA28612; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:55:01 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA28423 Received: from by ella.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id QAA14963; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:52:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:52:43 -0800 Message-Id: <32FA7CB2.295B@ix.netcom.com> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@ella.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@ella.mills.edu