source file: mills2.txt Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:10:29 -0800 Subject: can anyone explain these "ghosttones"? From: clucy@cix.compulink.co.uk (Charles Lucy) I posted the following in alt.sci.physics.acoustics a few days ago and got the following reply. Can any of our maths people give me more pointers please? Does this give anyone new ideas of how to explain the "ghosttones"? lucy (posting and reply follows: [;H[2Jalt.sci.physics.acoustics #5245 (0 + 10 more) (1)--[7m[1][m From: sirius@dca.net (Michael Anderson) [m[A [m[A [7m[1][m [4mRe: Proof of Harmonic Series?[m Organization: NSL X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ NNTP-Posting-Host: phl-6007.dca.net Date: Sat Feb 15 17:27:37 GMT 1997 Lines: 32 In article , clucy@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Charles Lucy") says: > > >Can anyone point me to conclusive physical proof that harmonics >(i,e, the sounds that you hear) are only to be found at >integer frequency ratios. >I am seriously questioning this "hallowed" rule, and would >appreciate pointers from the acousticians. >(My experience and intuition tells me that harmonics beat) >Does anyone have firm experimental data to validate the >integer ratio mapping of harmonics on vibrating strings? >TIA >Charles Lucy No, harmonics from physical sources such as flutes and oboes and bells are not integrally separated. Generally one solves families of solutions to Bessel or Legendre type equations, and these are not simple integer multiples. Michael L Anderson North Star Laboratory Ultrasonics consulting and instruments (610) 326-8425 [7mEnd of article 5245 (of 5246)--what next? [npqh][m [;H[2J Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:13 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07678; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:13:05 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA07671 Received: from by ella.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id FAA01042; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:07:28 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:07:28 -0800 Message-Id: <009AFF9AC013F2A3.2D45@vbv40.ezh.nl> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@ella.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@ella.mills.edu