source file: mills2.txt Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:05:08 -0800 Subject: proof is needed From: Aline Surman Morrison's response to Marcus's comments was a hoot; when Hobbs pointed out that there were deeper forces working on us from the cosmos, Gary said that Sagan's response would probably be to ask him to identify the forces. Well, I would surely say death is one of those forces. I'm pretty sure "science" doesn't have a clue just yet as to how to explain what's going on there. Death comes for all, and we know not when, or how it will occur...absolutely natural, and out of our control. Again, the Universe is very integrated in all of it's component parts; only man has tried to fragment it into math, religion, etc. We are the CREATED ones; best not to forget that fact. We woke up in this marvelous Universe one day, and have been trying to understand it ever since. My study of tunings is really a study of sound and it's power. This concept is more basic and primal than the concept of tunings. Tunings only serve to demonstrate different aspects of sound, and the infinity of possibilities thereof. But, common to all tuning systems is the fact that they are sounds first. And again, it's important to realize that there are gazillions of frequencies bouncing around from all over the Universe; it matters little that we can "see" or "hear" them, in conventional terms; perhaps, as MANY ancient cultures have suggested, there are other ways to see and hear. Astrology, as with many sort of "mystical" ideas in our society, is turning into a sort of pop topic for tabloids, rather than a serious inquiry into the forces around us; don't throw the baby out with the bath, and use astrolgy to mock true knowledge. One last comment...there was recently a discharge of energy from the Sun, which actually knocked out a satellite. If it did that to a satellite, would it not be reasonable to infer that these same energies also passed through OUR bodies as well? Is it possible, since we were created by the Sun some time ago, that these energies had some sort of effect on our very being? Could this be the link between mysticism and science? Where is Carl Sagan now, anyway?...maybe somebody on the forum will channel him for us...Hstick Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:12 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA04949; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:12:42 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA04940 Received: from by ella.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id LAA20446; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:08:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:08:19 -0800 Message-Id: <3404e574.1563523546@kcbbs.gen.nz> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@ella.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@ella.mills.edu