source file: mills2.txt Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:19:39 -0800 Subject: Re: Unsent replies From: "Jo A. Hainline" On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, John Chalmers wrote: > > Bruce: Could you give some examples of mystical givens in science? > I'll stipulate that I, you, and the rest of the universe exist and > neither it or we are entirely irrational and chaotic.... > Oh, I was thinking of things like the existence of particles, time, conservation of mass/energy, that a repeatable observation has any bearing on the nature of the universe. Any axiomatic principle that forms the basis of scientific observation and experimentation has its existence in some "mystical" insight, whether acknowledged or "self-evident", IMHO. Thanks for your thoughts-they are always thorough and stretch my thinking. Bruce Kanzelmeyer Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:04 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA18948; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:04:41 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA18915 Received: from by ella.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id WAA17704; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:03:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:03:18 -0800 Message-Id: <333A1FDF.4F4D@dnvr.uswest.net> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@ella.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@ella.mills.edu