source file: mills2.txt Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:57:21 -0700 Subject: RE: Scale of Neanderthal flute From: "Ashcraft AC (Clif)" ------ extPart_000_01BC436B.622FE940 Content-Type: text/plain; charsets-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The discover article may have been referring to a more recent discovery. What they show is not a fragment of a bone flute but rather a nearly complete curved mammouth tusk showing 16 fairly equally spaced holes of uniform size. It was big enough that they were referring to it as an "Um-pah-pah" tuba flute. I have the magazine at home. I'll check the references tonight and see if it relates to a more recent archeological discovery than the fragmented bone flute. Clif Ashcraft ---------- From: Bill Alves[SMTP:alves@orion.ac.hmc.edu] Sent: Monday, April 07, 1997 1:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Scale of Neanderthal flute >There was an article in the current issue of "Discover" magazine (April = >or May 1997 issue) with a picture of the Neanderthal Flute.... >The picture clearly shows 16 finger holes which look roughly = >equally spaced and similar in size. If so then it is different than the one Fink writes about. The fragment that he shows on his website has only two holes and two edges that may be half holes where the bone was broken. This bone was unearthed by "Dr. Ivan Turk, a paleontologist at the Slovenian Academy of Sciences in Ljubljana." I haven't seen the Discover article. Bill ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Bill Alves email: alves@hmc.edu ^ ^ Harvey Mudd College URL: http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/ ^ ^ 301 E. 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