source file: mills2.txt Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:43:49 +0200 Subject: Re: JI puns From: rtomes@kcbbs.gen.nz (Ray Tomes) Second post. I think the first one fell off the edge of the world. Someone wrote that Paul E Says: >Another way of saying this is that Just Intonation has no >"puns", or notes taken in two different senses, and typical JI >theory does not admit punning. However, in creating intervals in >JI, you will eventually come across some very complicated ratios >that are so close to simple ones that they will function as >consonances rather than dissonances. So the typical JI >small-integers=consonance / large-integers=dissonance approach >falls flat on its face. It is true that JI has no puns, but a similar sort of joke could be done a slightly different way. Take Bach's Prelude (No.1 from well-tempered Clavichord) which must be one of the punniest pieces around. Each arpeggio is played twice, and the first time its meaning matches the tuning of the previous arpeggio and the second time it matches the following arpeggio. So in JI the frequencies should reflect this and change slightly between the first and second playing. In most cases some notes would stay the same and some change by small amounts such as 81/80, 64/63 and such. It would be interesting to hear it done this way. OK, for the purests, that was not the intended joke. -- Ray Tomes -- rtomes@kcbbs.gen.nz -- Harmonics Theory -- http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/users/rtomes/rt-home.htm Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:27 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA08643; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:27:35 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:27:35 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA08867 Received: (qmail 11833 invoked from network); 10 May 1997 14:27:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 May 1997 14:27:27 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu