source file: mills2.txt Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 15:04:20 +0200 Subject: Partch Limit vs Prime Limit From: Mckyyy@aol.com I have always used the term "limit" as if it were really "prime limit", and I think I am probably not the only person who sees things this way. I find Partch's treatment of the subject to be somewhat muddy. He definitely refers to a 9 limit, therefore, he does not limit his limits to prime numbers. I did a few minutes of research to find out what he really was trying to say, and was referred to "identity" which was defined in terms of "correlatives" and "pole of tonality", but I didn't find a definition for "pole of tonality", or "correlatives". I know that some of you out there probably have gone much deeper into his work, and understand to some degree what he really may have meant by all this, but I wonder at the utility of taking the very simple concept of "prime limit" and confusing it with some other, much more elaborate concept. Perhaps Partch's concept, whatever it was, could have been better expressed in other terms than "limit". My understanding is that the term was pretty well defined to be something else when he did his work. I find the concept of "prime limit" to be very useful, but I am not convinced of the utility of Partch's concept of limit for my view of diatonic harmony. For me, the whole "lattice" approach is much less useful than Aliquot Parts and Least Common Multiple for analyzing scales, chords, and intervals. Marion Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:11 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA18913; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:11:45 +0200 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:11:45 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA14412 Received: (qmail 4393 invoked from network); 28 Jun 1997 17:11:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jun 1997 17:11:32 -0000 Message-Id: <17181797810146@cybersim.com> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu