source file: mills2.txt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:20:05 +0200 Subject: Limits, Octave equivalence From: DFinnamore@aol.com Two things recently discussed on the list have taken me by surprise, and I'd like to see more general discussion of them (or perhaps someone could point me to an earlier thread or two?). First, it seems that some prefer odd-limits while others prefer only prime limits. Is there some controversy here? Both ideas strike me as equally valid and useful concepts- simply different. Second, some of us evidently don't believe that octave equivalence (2:1, give or take a few cents :-) should be taken for granted, but is a merely culturally-instilled idea. Holy cow! Have you never seen pictures of waveforms? E.g., given two waves, one of which has a frequency at a power-of-two of the other, the lower one will cross the zero point (volage- or SPL-wise) only at points at which the higher one is crossing as well. This is a unique property of frequencies related by powers-of-two; they have, then a special relationship of some kind, no? The higher one is repeating at the same frequency as the lower one, as well as at its own nominal frequency. They can, then, in a very real and physical sense, be considered to be the same note; i.e., the same "pitch" but in different registers. David J. Finnamore Just tune it! Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:16 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA30425; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:16:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:16:25 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA30514 Received: (qmail 18125 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1997 04:49:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jun 1997 04:49:10 -0000 Message-Id: <33B70320.620@erols.com> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu