source file: mills2.txt Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:10:12 +0200 Subject: Point of Well Temperaments From: A440A@aol.com Gary Morrison writes: The entire point of well temperaments is that they are > about equally well in tune in all keys. I have to disagree. Even in the Young, the difference between F and F# is too great to call equally well in tune. This is a big difference. To my ears and history, the point of well temperament was to provide a suitable palette of tonal differences between the keys. It is the irregularity of these tunings that was an art form, as opposed to the scientific procedures we have to use to create a 12TET. Also, Manuel Op de Coul writes; >A tuning is a well temperament when there is no wolf fifth and it can >be played in all keys. One precise definition is that there may be no >fifths larger than pure and no major thirds smaller than pure. I think a more precise definition would mention the increasing tempering of the root tonic thirds with increases in the the key signature. It is the contrast between various levels of tempering that was such a strong topic during the period between Mozart and Chopin. There is no contrast in ET, so I would offer that we keep the words separate. I can only see confusion if we are to call ET another well-temperament. The overwhelming use of "well-temperament" these days has been to indicate the irregular, circulating temperaments that arose between the meantone era and the proliferation of ET, which I peg at the mid 1800's, ( I know, there is a lot of controversy to push that date earlier, or later, but I don't see enough supporting evidence to make me think it was really happening before Chopin. Regards, Ed Foote Precision Piano Works Nashville, Tn. P.s. "The Beethoven In The Temperaments" CD is in the print stage, and should be ready September 1. Once we have that out, these discussions on the older temperaments can have something to key off of. Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:49 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA31262; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:49:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:49:51 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA31275 Received: (qmail 9167 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1997 15:49:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jul 1997 15:49:32 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu