source file: mills2.txt Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:53:05 +0200 Subject: RE: Lattice, LCM, and Aliquot Parts From: "Paul H. Erlich" Marion wrote, >Another form of invariance, ratio invariance, is important in LCM >analysis. This became clear to me during a discussion I had with >Paul E. some time ago. Thinking back over that, it seems to me >that our differences of opinion on the subject of the length of >LCM patterns was mostly due to different assumptions about ratio >invariance. I was assuming ratio invariance, he was not. I'm >still not absolutely clear on all this and would appreciate any >comments. I thought we had decided that our "differences of opinion" were simply an error on your part. You were claiming that the LCM of a chord was proportional to the pattern length of the chord. I pointed out that this was only true under certain wild assumptions about the relative register of the chords. For example, the major triad (4:5:6) and the minor triad (10:12:15) both have an LCM of 60. For both chords, the pattern length of the chord as a whole is that of the frequency represented by the number 1. So in order to give both chords the same wavelength, you have to play the minor triad an octave plus a major third higher than the major triad. If you play them in the same register, the wavelength of the minor triad is 10/4 2.5 times longer than that of the major triad. The LCM was used by Euler to classify chords. The only physical significance of the LCM is that it is the ratio of the lowest common overtone to the highest common fundamental. This fundamental is a note whose wavelength is the same as the pattern length of the chord as a whole. So your attempt at equating the LCM with pattern length is correct in general only if we assume all chords are built below the same common overtone. In other words, it assumes that there is some note (say 2880Hz) which is the lowest common overtone of the notes within each and every chord. Needless to say, that is a preposterous assumption (calling it "ratio invariance" doesn't help). For example, adding the major third to an open fifth increases the LCM from 6 to 60; in this case the pattern length increases not by a factor of 10 but only by a factor of 2, since the lowest common overtone goes up by a factor of 5. Meanwhile, adding a minor third to the fifth again increases the LCM from 6 to 60; this time the pattern length increases by a factor of 5 and the lowest common overtone goes up by a factor of 2. Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:27 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA27106; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:28:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:28:01 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA27101 Received: (qmail 24388 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1997 18:27:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jul 1997 18:27:14 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu