source file: mills2.txt Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:19:45 +0200 Subject: The Outer Limits From: DFinnamore@aol.com So far, all of the limits I have seen discussed have been _upper_ limits. Has anyone explored the idea of lower limits - say, a lower 3-limit, which would not allow a power-of-two to stand alone in a numerator or denominator? I think that would mean that every note of the scale, every interval created by notes of the scale, would have at least a certain degree of complexity. I drew up a few of these scales on paper but haven't yet listened to them. Using a lower limit of 5 and an upper limit of 7 looks very strange on paper! BTW, I like a concept that Graham Breed introduced me to: harmonic dimensionality using prime limits. As I understand it, using all octaves (like P. D. Q. Bach's Don Octave) would be 1-dimensional, Pythagorean scales (3-limit in practice) would be 2-dimensional, 5-limit would be 3-dimensional. So a lower limit of 3 with an upper limit of 5 would insure that every member of the scale except the tonic itself would have a 3-dimensional relationship to the tonic; and I think it might insure that every interval created with the scale members would also be 3-dimensional (with respect to the tonic; 2-D standing alone, right?). Any comments? David J. Finnamore Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:20 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05407; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:20:38 +0200 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:20:38 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA05421 Received: (qmail 18405 invoked from network); 5 Jul 1997 21:19:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jul 1997 21:19:53 -0000 Message-Id: <970705171803_-991311241@emout12.mail.aol.com> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu