source file: mills2.txt Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:42:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Historical temperaments: reply to Bill Alves From: alves@orion.ac.hmc.edu (Bill Alves) I had written: > Dan had responded: >A look at the Sonatas will show you 3 in C Major, 3 in F Major, 2 in Bb >Major, 1 in Eb Major, 1 in G Major, 3 in D Major, 1 in A Major, 1 in a >minor, and the Sonata and Fantasie in c minor, exactly the extent of the >meantone keys. Most of the Sonatas feature chromaticism, the spelling >consistant with meantone set to Eb to A. I personally find the chromaticism >in the Fantasien to be especially vivid in meantone. My difficulty with >claims for a temperament other that meantone for Mozart lies chiefly in >the absence of music in other keys. Well, the key a piece is written in is only one of the tonalities introduced. By "chromaticism" I meant not only the use of chromatic non-harmonic tones, but also the frequent use of modulations to foreign keys. A quick glance at my copy of the c minor Fantasia K.475 shows what I would consider modulations from C minor to Bb minor to Db major to B major all within the first 11 bars, including a big fat F#653 chord. That would sound vivid indeed in meantone! Bill ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Bill Alves email: alves@hmc.edu ^ ^ Harvey Mudd College URL: http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/ ^ ^ 301 E. Twelfth St. (909)607-4170 (office) ^ ^ Claremont CA 91711 USA (909)607-7600 (fax) ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Received: from ns.ezh.nl [137.174.112.59] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:57 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA25827; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:58:20 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:58:20 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA12090 Received: (qmail 7347 invoked from network); 11 Jul 1997 21:58:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 1997 21:58:13 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu