source file: mills3.txt Subject: Diminished scales From: kami@InterLinx.qc.ca In 12tET, there are 2 patterns available : hW hW hW hW and Wh Wh Wh Wh. In 8tET, there is only one diminished scale. Blackwood said that a possible 16tET diminished scale would be 0 1 4 5 8 9 12 13 16. All these scales have a two note pattern that fills a minor third. The pattern is repeated 4 times in an octave. All diminished scales contain the interval of a tempered minor third, but the also contain a 4tET diminished triad. In fact, they all contain 2 diminished chords, separated by an interval of delta cents. Any scale can be identified with its delta or the relative size of the 2 steps. Ex : delta = 100 cents => scale is hW hW... in 12-equal. delta=75 cents => scale is 0 1 4... in 16TET. (3,2) -- which means 3 steps followed by 2 steps in a minor third. => The scale is a subset of 20TET, 0 3 5 8 10... So the diminished scale is a 100% ET scale, that can not contain any just intervals (No just interval except 2/1 and its multiples, can be expressed exactly in ET.) Any 4n-TET chromatic scale can have diminished subsets. There are n-1 subsets in the chromatic scale. Ex : 12/oct = 4*3, n=3, so there are 2 subsets, hW and Wh 4/oct and 1/oct could be considered limit cases. in 4/oct, delta=0 cents. Is this the first exemple of a significant ET chord or structure? (Beside the well accepted fact that ET scales allow complex chord progressions.) Could it be possible, in a composition, to move from tuning A to tuning B, using a diminished scale? Are any pseudo-diminished scales used in JI and odd-ET's? -Kami $AdditionalHeaders: Received: from ns.ezh.nl by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) with SMTP id C12564DA.000712BD; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 03:17:15 +0200