source file: mills3.txt Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 00:14:02 +0200 Subject: names, JI, ands ET From: Paul Rapoport Re Jonathan Walker's contribution to the JI/ET nomenclature issue: I don't disagree with much; I am merely coming at this from a different approach. The syntonic comma and other intervals are (among other things) relations and are expressed or not in various ETs. To recognize this fact requires their use and name, because they function in those tunings at least partly as expected. As a byproduct they lead to at least a preliminary notation based on something generalizable. Although quartertones may be context dependent, all intervals to some extent are, including those in JIs and ETs. The background assumption, however, is that quartertones are 1/4 tone, just as 12-tET semitones are 2^(1/12). Whether any interval is realized close to its theoretical norm is an interesting question but doesn't affect the point, I think. Lowinsky's use of quartertones is indeed clever in a way but sounds like it goes back to a loose use of the term which I think is better avoided. If it isn't 24-tET or something in which tones are divided into 4, it's clearer and better to find a more exact name, which isn't hard. This, as they say, "is where I came in." Thanks to JW for some worthy ideas. Paul Rapoport SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: DMB5561719@aol.com Subject: Re: Great Tape Swap Deadline PostedDate: 15-08-97 02:32:54 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 15-08-97 02:32:54-15-08-97 02:32:55,15-08-97 02:31:04-15-08-97 02:31:04 DeliveredDate: 15-08-97 02:31:04 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) with SMTP id C12564F4.0003028C; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:32:52 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA03457; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:32:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:32:54 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA03455 Received: (qmail 5418 invoked from network); 15 Aug 1997 00:32:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 1997 00:32:37 -0000 Message-Id: <970814202947_1517032404@emout06.mail.aol.com> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu