source file: mills3.txt Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:11:06 +0200 Subject: Demisemitones From: gbreed@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Breed) I wrote: >> I now use the term "demisemitone" for intervals with dimensions >> of q and r-q, although I would rather call them quartertones. Gary Morrison wrote: > I may have lost track of the "p"s and "q"s, but I think I understood you > to suggest that the distance between a minor second and an augmented octave > should be viewed as roughly a quartertone? There is a difference between a fifth and a twelfth, so there is also a difference between an octave and a unison. In this case, we're talking about the difference between an augmented unison and a minor second. Augmented octave indeed ... I introduced the term "demisemitone" for this concept, to avoid confusion with other meanings the word "quartertone" has acquired. > If so, I don't think that's a good idea. In 24TET for example, the > distance between an augmented unison (e.g., C-C#) and a minor second (e.g., > C-Db) is zero, not a quartertone. In 19TET, that difference is the same as > chromatic half-step. The definition only applies to syntonic meantones. 24tet, as opposed to 12tet, is not such a scale, so a demisemitone can be defined as 1 step. In general, I would define a demisemitone as the approximation of the septimal comma. This is consistent with 7/4 being a subminor seventh, and an augmented sixth in a syntonic meantone. > When you deal with quarter-steps, you have to add the ideas of > half-augmentation and half-diminishment, and consequently subminors, > neutrals, and supramajors. If you don't, you're almost certainly going to > run into inconsistent terminology. Yes, fine with me. SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: kukula@synopsys.com Subject: groups, matrices, etc. PostedDate: 26-08-97 18:22:43 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 28-08-97 10:23:50-28-08-97 10:23:52,28-08-97 10:21:25-28-08-97 10:21:26 DeliveredDate: 28-08-97 10:21:26 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) with SMTP id C1256501.002DF3AF; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:21:55 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA01384; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:22:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:22:43 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA01382 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1997 16:22:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 1997 16:22:31 -0000 Message-Id: <199708252334.QAA00544@sunatg3> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu