source file: mills3.txt Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:29:06 +0200 Subject: RE: Tuning of the 2nd sruti From: alves@orion.ac.hmc.edu (Bill Alves) >In fact, Bharata, like medieval European writers, considers the 3rd to be >in the "assonant" (anuvadi) category -- that is, neither consonant nor >dissonant. I'm responding to my own message because I didn't express this correctly. The Europeans, of course, did not have an "assonant" category. Medieval writers considered the third dissonant, presumably because of the Pythagorean heritage; that is, the Pythagorean major third (C-E) is 81/64, a relatively complex ratio and somewhat dissonant to my ears too. I meant to compare the fact that in both cases the ratios are rather complex and in neither case are they considered consonant. Whether this is significant I'm not sure. Certainly the terms most writers now freely translate as "consonant" or "dissonant" may have had different meanings for medieval Europeans and medieval Indians. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ Bill Alves email: alves@hmc.edu ^ ^ Harvey Mudd College URL: http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/ ^ ^ 301 E. Twelfth St. (909)607-4170 (office) ^ ^ Claremont CA 91711 USA (909)607-7600 (fax) ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: Peter.Blasser@oberlin.edu Subject: x PostedDate: 12-09-97 07:32:07 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 12-09-97 07:32:08-12-09-97 07:32:09,12-09-97 07:31:31-12-09-97 07:31:31 DeliveredDate: 12-09-97 07:31:31 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) with SMTP id C1256510.001E64B1; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:31:58 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA27020; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:32:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:32:07 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA27033 Received: (qmail 13248 invoked from network); 12 Sep 1997 05:27:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 1997 05:27:29 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu