source file: mills3.txt Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:36:49 +0200 Subject: RE: tuning of the 2nd sruti From: Manuel.Op.de.Coul@ezh.nl Bill Alves wrote: > Like some of our correspondents, Fox-Strangways considered Bharata's 4 > srutis to be a major tone (9/8) 3 to be a minor tone (10/9) and 2 to be a > just semitone (16/15). However, there is no direct evidence for this > interpretation in Bharata, nor in any of the treatises that I know of for > more than a millineum following him. There is neither a direct interpretation of 1 sruti. To quote from Arnold A. Bake, "Bharata's experiment with two vinas", in _Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies_ vol. 20, 1957, pp. 61-67. He rejects the idea of mathematical calculation of the pramana sruti (1 sruti): "The name pramanasruti really has no reference to the mathematical size of that interval, contrary to what was accepted a priori by Fox Strangways and others. What the name is meant to indicate is that one has to take that sruti as the standard, because it is the only one actually demonstrable in practice by putting the ma-grama against the sa-grama as indicated. The sum total of 22 srutis is arrived at by addition, not by division." ... "There is no evidence of the ancient Indian musicians arriving at the perfect octave, fifth or fourth by division of strings." B. Breloer by the way calculates different srutis than Fox Strangways. In "Die Grundelemente der altindischen Musik nach dem Bharatiya-natya-sastra", Bonn, 1922, he gives srutis of 24, 66 and 90 cents (instead of 22, 70 and 90). Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: Manuel.Op.de.Coul@ezh.nl Subject: Organ CDs PostedDate: 12-09-97 07:38:43 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 12-09-97 07:38:40-12-09-97 07:38:41,12-09-97 07:38:02-12-09-97 07:38:03 DeliveredDate: 12-09-97 07:38:03 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) with SMTP id C1256510.001EFF42; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:38:34 +0200 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA27311; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:38:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:38:43 +0200 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA27227 Received: (qmail 13990 invoked from network); 12 Sep 1997 05:31:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Sep 1997 05:31:19 -0000 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu