source file: mills3.txt Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:32:47 +0100 Subject: Reply to Gregg Gibson (and not the only one!) From: gbreed@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Breed) > Indian singers - see Levy: Intonation in North Indian Music - do not > seem to use the 22-tone equal at all. They certainly do not sing > 436-cent major thirds, which occur repeatedly in the melodic texture of > 22-tone equal, unless very flat fifths of 655 cents are employed. Of > course the centre of 22-tone equal in India is nowadays supposed to be > the South. No Indian theorist I've read ever claimed 22 equal has anything to do with Indian music. Some mention a 22 note scale, but most emphasise that it is _not_ equally tempered. One of the features of traditional Indian thinking is a lack of historical sense, so everything is considered as the present and obsolete ideas are not highlighted as such. South Indian theorists, though, do make a much bigger point of the 22 srutis. I haven't seen any quantitative research on the pitch perception of South Indian musicians. As there is no modulation in Indian music, 436-cents thirds will never arise, even if you follow Gregg's highly suspect argument. SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: gbreed@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Breed) Subject: Re: 31-tone equal melodic progression PostedDate: 13-12-97 14:35:17 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 13-12-97 14:33:17-13-12-97 14:33:18,13-12-97 14:33:00-13-12-97 14:33:01 DeliveredDate: 13-12-97 14:33:01 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C125656C.004A73E1; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:35:09 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA14469; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:35:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:35:17 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA14468 Received: (qmail 4062 invoked from network); 13 Dec 1997 05:34:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 1997 05:34:01 -0800 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu