source file: mills3.txt Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 06:27:02 +0100 Subject: Re: 19 and melodic lemons From: mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison) >Real? Are you seriously suggesting that the melodic difference limen >is the single most important aspect in choice of tuning? I can think of >three counterarguments... >(1) Melody is only one aspect of musical performance... >(2) Even within melody, intonation is very variable among instrumentalists... >(3) Even if we grant the melodic difference limen at 1/3 tone, this >says nothing about 19-tet per octave (or per stretched pseudo-octave >as you prefer)... And I'll add to that, (4) Melodic passages involving intervals smaller than 60 cents are clearly musically meaningful. I'm quite confident that NOBODY will perceive the chromatic run of quartertones C C+ C# Dd D as a subtle "shading" of C C C# C# D. The fact that C C+ C# Dd D is a continuous rise in pitch, whereas C C C# C# D is a sequence of two repeated pitches followed by a third, is a more audible effect. Repetition is almost certainly a much more basic psychoacoustic consideration than this melodic limen you're proposing. Or similarly, even if a melody doesn't use step sizes smaller than 60 cents, if it is taken from a scale that is nothing at all like a diatonic scale, 9TET for example, then it can't possibly be viewed as a subtle variation on a diatonic melody. It is clearly systematically different at its very roots. SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison) Subject: Re: Re G. Gibson in TD1265 and on the sensitivity of intervals to mistuning PostedDate: 20-12-97 06:27:41 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 20-12-97 06:25:33-20-12-97 06:25:33,20-12-97 06:25:08-20-12-97 06:25:08 DeliveredDate: 20-12-97 06:25:08 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C1256573.001DCBE1; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 06:27:23 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA22514; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 06:27:41 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 06:27:41 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA22495 Received: (qmail 13399 invoked from network); 19 Dec 1997 21:27:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Dec 1997 21:27:21 -0800 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu