source file: mills3.txt Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 18:36:12 +0100 Subject: HABA! (...now that I have your attention) From: Stephen Soderberg Hello again everyone; I've really been enjoying this list since finding it. Today I have two questions and an advertisement. From me-the-librarian: I have a patron here who is interested in locating a microtone piano to play Alois Haba & other stuff on. I assume he's talking about quartertone or sixthtone. Does anyone out there know where these animals are located, if they still exist at all? From me-the-music-lover: I took a look at the Denver microtone page recently. Nice site! But as I was running through the list of microtone "pioneers" I didn't find Haba listed. I'm curious about this and also that since I've been on the list Haba's name hasn't come up even once that I remember. Is it because he used 24TET and 36TET so extensively, and these are now considered "passe" or "unusable" relics of 12TET? I really love his string quartets and am wondering if there's an objective reason for his seeming exclusion from the microtonal hall of fame? From me-the-theorist: On a related topic, if all goes well, I'll be having an article published in Music Theory Online early next year entitled "White Note Fantasy." I'd rather wait until it's out to discuss online, but some highlights are: a "WARP function" that transforms sonorities between ET spaces of any size; the extension of the usual diatonic to hyperdiatonic systems in 12nTET spaces (as it turns out, the only place you can get micro-systems that give you *all* the transformation benefits of the usual diatonic is in 12TET, 24TET, 36TET, etc.); in higher ET spaces, the basic (hyperdiatonic) chords are no longer triads-- in 24 they're pentachords, in 36 heptachords, etc.; some interesting voice leading implications of moving diatonic materials into larger spaces. I'm not a particular advocate of hyperdiatonic systems or of ET or JI or 19 or 22 or 144 or whatever, but I do find it hard to believe that we won't all be listening to some *very* different stuff 100 years from now (well, I won't, but...) -- Steve Soderberg Music Division, Library of Congress SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: Paul Hahn Subject: Re: 19, 22, 29, 41, 53 : 12 and multiples PostedDate: 23-12-97 19:15:23 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 23-12-97 19:13:12-23-12-97 19:13:12,23-12-97 19:12:43-23-12-97 19:12:43 DeliveredDate: 23-12-97 19:12:43 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C1256576.00641337; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:15:01 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA24525; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:15:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:15:23 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA24582 Received: (qmail 22410 invoked from network); 23 Dec 1997 10:15:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Dec 1997 10:15:18 -0800 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu