source file: mills3.txt Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:10:57 +0100 Subject: Temperament Crusades-different camps From: A440A Greetings, Fred wrote: >Is ther a way for a multiplicity of tunings to co-exist in a way that >performers from different camps can play together or is there a need >for a >"standard" tuning for practical reasons such as instrument >manufacturing and >performance? Isn't the 'need" for a standard tuning what finally brought us to the present-day use of 12 TET? Performers should not be expected to be able to play with ALL other camps. The cost of individual expressions would suffer from this, no? It is good to have different camps, but when they all begin playing together, the tuning gets averaged down in an entropic "sift", until we end up at one ET or the other. ( at least it looks like that is what has happened in the last 4000 years).. This is not to say that the whole world uses 12 TET, I know better. But this is the tuning from which we are attempting to depart, and there just doesn't seem to be a huge train running back to BALI, or slack-key hawaii, (or even to the studios on country row), etc. so, yes, we do have a question as to our destination as well as how to get there. The steel is my favorite instrument, but I ain't waiting for Buddy Emmons to have a network show from Lincoln Center, (He should, you oughta hear him play Bach on that thing, mind-blowing!) My own approach is to reestablish some of the sense of tonality we have lost. I am doing this though retuning,(historically) for Beethoven, figuring to force listeners to enjoy new tunings via the use of familiar music. It is flank artillery in the assault on ET, but well defended and at times, quite camoflauged. I am scoring some hits with the CD so far................ >Will the fragmentation of opinion among tuning pioneers inhibit a >popular movement beyond 12TET, so that alternate tunings remain >the province of academics and isolated pockets of experimentation? No, I hope not. The longer ET remains entrenched, the more beaten down it will become. Music is dynamic, and grows. The rigid 12ET system does not, and will eventually become one of many. We "tuning pioneers", (which is all of us on this least, plus others), aren't really fragmented, we are just all carrying different tools in the war on 12TET. We are, from one perspective, completely united, defined by our enemy, and enjoying the grunt work immensely. Best regards, Season's greetings to all Ed Foote Precision Piano Works Nashville, Tn. ("The Book Of Five Rings" has been very helpful in dealing with some of the contention that arises when one must question others tunings .) SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: gbreed@cix.compulink.co.uk (Graham Breed) Subject: Why septimal harmony works PostedDate: 25-12-97 14:27:21 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 25-12-97 14:25:07-25-12-97 14:25:08,25-12-97 14:24:37-25-12-97 14:24:37 DeliveredDate: 25-12-97 14:24:37 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C1256578.0049B35F; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:26:56 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA25088; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:27:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:27:21 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA25525 Received: (qmail 20232 invoked from network); 25 Dec 1997 05:27:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Dec 1997 05:27:11 -0800 Message-Id: Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu