source file: mills3.txt Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:51:51 +0100 Subject: Loded From: Carl Lumma Will Grant writes... >and you can't possibly intend to say that there >is no difference between vertical and horizontal. I thought Paul Erlich meant 'chords' and 'melody' respectively! >I'm not sure what you had in mind, but it doesn't >seem likely that you really mean that there's no difference >between vertical and horizontal harmonies. I'm not sure what you mean by vertical and horizontal. >To begin with, if they're cohabitating in blissfully perfect >consonance, they're not doing very much musically. Could you elaborate? Gary Morrison writes... >That in turn touches upon the question of whether it's really wise to >substitute the word "dissonant" for "discordant", as so many of us do. >Dissonance is a measure of the need to resolve, which is context-sensitive. >Discordance on the other hand, is a measure of harmonic tension of a chord >in isolation, which is inherently context-INsensitive. > >So a G major chord and a C major chord are equally discordant (that >being rather NONdiscordant), but in the key of C major, a G chord is much >more dissonant than a C chord. > >(And just why the heck is there no antonym for "discordant"?! @#$%!) I'm with you. But what does this have to do with... >In short then, the case for the idea that horizontal and vertical >aspects of music can't be taken in isolation, is based upon the premise >that dissonance is every bit as much a function of its place in the >counterpoint as it is upon its discordance. That premise is, at least >historically speaking, totally undeniable. But perhaps it is debatable >with respect to this particular discussion, or with respect to its >relevance to, say, atonal music. ..how you are using "vertical and horizontal"? Carl SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: Pat Missin Subject: Re: motherload PostedDate: 31-12-97 01:55:12 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 31-12-97 01:52:51-31-12-97 01:52:52,31-12-97 01:52:15-31-12-97 01:52:15 DeliveredDate: 31-12-97 01:52:15 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C125657E.0004D3CB; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:54:40 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA28494; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:55:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:55:12 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA28422 Received: (qmail 1912 invoked from network); 30 Dec 1997 16:55:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Dec 1997 16:55:07 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19971230213442.2cef805e@mail.globalnet.co.uk> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu