source file: m1380.txt Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 01:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Reply to Johnny Reinhard From: Joseph Downing On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Paul H. Erlich wrote: > }Schoenberg . . . completely recognized the overtone series as the basis > }for 12ET. > Are you aware of the extreme inconsistencies in this position that > Partch pointed out? > }Partch did Schoenberg one better by explaining the minor > }through an undertone series. > The "undertone" explantion of minor dates back long before Schoenberg. > But Partch scoffed at any reference to "undertones" or the like, calling > them "hallucinations" or worse. Where does he say this? I am more familiar with his use of what he called "Utonality" - which was intervals formed from inversions of "Otonality" ie. Otonal intervals were derived from the overtone series, while Utonal intervals were derived from the Undertone series. (Just re-read Genesis a couple of months ago)> Joe Downing, in Syracuse