source file: m1402.txt Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 13:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Buzz Feiten system From: John Starrett All- Paul E. says: >Yes. As much as I agree with Neil that it would be more valuable to >start educating guitarists on microtonality than obsessing over getting >perfect 12tET, it is the latter that Feiten's system is geared toward. >In addition to the usual bridge adjustments, Feiten proposes some >string-specific nut adjustments. I remember Steve Vai saying he is >getting Feiten's system installed on all his guitars, as he was never >before able to play chords anywhere on the fingerboard and have them all >sound in tune. When playing along with keyboards, etc, it is 12tET that >defines whether one is in tune or out of tune, and deficiencies in 12tET >itself are not really an issue to most musicians, who have never spent >time listening to purer intervals. I will admit to not knowing the details of the BF system, but here are some basics to consider when deciding if the method does what it is supposed to do. Assuming that the guitar is properly set up: 1. Adjusting the nut height can only affect the amount a string stretches when it is fretted. A correctly cut nut should leave the same distance from the string to the first fret as there is from the string to the second fret when the string is fretted at the first. Normal compensation at the bridge corrects for the different amount strings of different guages stretch. Traditionally, bridge compensation is checked at the octave, where the bow of the neck, and thus the stretch of the strings will be the greatest. It may be that compensation should be adjusted relative to lower frets, where most playing is traditionally done. 2. Adjustment of the position of the fulcrum of the nut along the length of the string might assist in retuning out of tune thirds in common barre chords. This is "the same" principle that Steinberger uses in their TransTrem whammy bar (by the way, I have always thought that a Steinberger guitar with a transtrem would make a great microtonal instrument, since you can adjust the pitch of each string separately when modulating to one of five new key centers). 3. No matter how you compensate for string guage and other variations on a guitar, you are still left with 12TET frets, and, for example, a compensation that corrects the third of an Emaj barre chord (one that flats the G string) will incorrectly compensate the octave of a A barre chord in the same region, and a correction of the third of the A barre on the B string will ruin the "perfect fifth" of the E barre. John Starrett http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret