source file: m1412.txt Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:07:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: TUNING digest 1404 From: Paul Hahn On Mon, 4 May 1998, A440A wrote: > Bruce writes: > >Actually it seems to me that the fascination with polyphony along with > >12ET's somewhat universal simplicity, has caused the predominance of > >12TET-- it has taken 250-300 years to somewhat exhaust the rich endowment > >of this tuning. > > If I understand Bruce to mean that ET has been used for 250-300 years, I > must respectfully disagree. There is more than ample evidence to show that, > while theorized about much earlier, the use of 12 TET didn't actually come to > prominence before 1850. A couple of thoughts here: (a) I'm not sure that 12TET has been exhausted even yet (I've posted on this before, and recently, so I won't belabor the point). (b) Just because tunings weren't 100% exactly 12TET doesn't disqualify the music of the Baroque period from being (in some essential way) 12TET-ish, as it were. Heck, most purportedly 12TET instruments even today aren't all that exact--see Barbour, or the recent thread on synthesizer tuning resolution. To me, the essential things are that there are 12 pitch/interval classes and no wolves; if those two conditions are met (that pretty much describes the circulating temperaments that were used increasingly throughout the Baroque) I'd be willing to call it some form of 12TET. Certainly it's closer to that than JI, or other tempered schemes with more than 12 pitch classes. --pH http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote O /\ "Churchill? Can he run a hundred balls?" -\-\-- o NOTE: dehyphenate node to remove spamblock. <*>