source file: m1414.txt Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:48:16 -0400 Subject: RE: Odd vs. Prime From: "Paul H. Erlich" Carl Lumma wrote, >But if I'm breathing, I'm >not at a loss to hear the "3-ness" in the 81/64 or the "5-ness" in the 5/4. I don't know what you're breathing. Consider the following intervals: Ratio Prime Limit Cents 34/27 17 399.1 63/50 7 400.1 92/73 73 400.5 29/23 29 401.3 82/65 41 402.2 53/42 53 402.7 77/61 61 403.3 101/80 101 403.5 24/19 19 404.4 115/91 23 405.2 91/72 13 405.4 67/53 67 405.8 43/34 43 406.6 62/49 31 407.4 81/64 3 407.8 100/79 79 408.1 119/94 47 408.3 138/109 109 408.4 19/15 19 409.2 147/116 23 410.0 128/101 101 410.1 109/86 109 410.3 90/71 71 410.5 71/56 71 410.9 52/41 41 411.5 33/26 13 412.7 80/63 7 413.6 47/37 47 414.2 61/48 61 414.9 75/59 59 415.4 89/70 89 415.7 If you have a way of tuning intervals with 0.1 cent precision, hold one note constant and sweep the other one through this range. Without looking, stop the sweep where you hear 3-ness. Do the same for 7-ness, and, if you believe in such things, 13-ness, 17-ness, 19-ness, 23-ness, 29-ness, 31-ness, etc. Be honest here. Personally, I hear nothing in this entire range but a 5/4 giving way to a 14/11. I'd be willing to believe Ken Wauchope if he says he can hear a hint of consonance around the 19/15. But qualitative differences like the ones between intervals of odd limit 3, 7, and 13? I >doubt it!