source file: m1428.txt Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:38:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Small miscellany From: Paul Hahn Apologies, my tuning friends: I've left several responses to my messages (both on the list and privately) hanging; somehow I didn't seem to get any less busy when the summer began, but am just as busy with different things. But here are a couple of drive-by comments: I've generated a couple more consistency tables, and the best candidates I've spotted so far for synthesizers are probably 1224 (2^3 * 3^2 * 17) and 1848 (2^3 * 3 * 7 * 11). You can see their consistency levels at various limits at . It's diameter, not radius, please, and yes, an ET having a diameter less than or equal to its consistency level is a desirable property in my book. I think of it being "quasi-JI-like", in a way. It's kind of hard to represent on a 2D screen with ASCII characters what I would do with a 4D 9-limit lattice, but here's a go: 10/9 --- 5/3 --- 5/4 / \ / \10/7 / \ / \ / \ / \ /14/9 \ / 7/6 \ / 7/4 \ 16/9 --- 4/3 --- 1/1 --- 3/2 --- 9/8 \ 8/7 / \12/7 / \ 9/7 / \ / \ / \ / \ / 7/5 \ / \ / 8/5 --- 6/5 --- 9/5 This is a projection of part of the 3D 7-limit lattice into a plane. The triangles are in the 3-5 plane, and the ratios inside the triads are either one layer above or below depending on whether they're inside major or minor triads. This shows all pitches separated from the 1/1 by intervals I consider consonant or primary within the 9-limit; however, without drawing lines which intersect and become confusing I can't draw lines for all those intervals, even when I'm not restricted to ASCII art. Several of the 9-limit intervals look like secondaries instead of primaries when represented this way. In 4 dimensions it would look like this: 5/3 --- 5/4 / \10/7 / \ 10/9 / \ / \ 3/2 --- 9/8 / \ / 7/6 \ / 7/4 \ \ 9/7 / / \ 4/3 --- 1/1 --- 3/2 \ / /14/9 \ \ 8/7 / \12/7 / \ / 16/9 --- 4/3 \ / \ / 9/5 \ / 7/5 \ / 8/5 --- 6/5 The tetrad on the left would be the 3D layer "below" the middle one in 4D space, and the one on the right the layer "above". All primary 9-limit intervals could then be seen as being one step away from the origin. If, as I said, we were 5-dimensional beings who could use 4-dimensional paper. --pH http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote O /\ "Churchill? Can he run a hundred balls?" -\-\-- o NOTE: dehyphenate node to remove spamblock. <*>