source file: m1447.txt Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:29:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: A pitch for making synthesizers tunable to an accuracy of at least 0.1 cent From: mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison) >I believe that the difference between being able to set a >pitch to within plus or minus 1 cent and being able to set that pitch to >within plus or minus 0.1 cent could in some cases spell the difference between >achieving a really powerful musical effect I'm inclined to give that the ol' "yes and no" response. I agree very definitely that accurate rendering of pitch can present some intriguing differences in how harmonies are perceived. Thus JI vs. 12TET vs. various other temperaments. But I think it's also worth pointing out that, most real-world instruments (keyboards being a very important exception) are a very different story. The vast majority of instruments are imprecise-pitch instruments, meaning that their players have to constantly monitor their pitch, often correcting flaws in the acoustic design of the instrument itself. But the reality of the matter is that for most instruments, it's often difficult to play normal-speed music with 5- to 10-cent accuracy much less 1-cent accuracy. Not impossible, true, but difficult. I often practice my tenor saxophone with the tuning meter turned on constantly, and I'll look down to see notes sometimes over a comma off the nominal 12TET pitch. Granted, that error is probably what causes me to look down at the tuner. Or to present this in a more extreme light, I'm currently struggling with some sort of really obnoxious tuning problem on my soprano saxophone. Certain pitch ranges on the horn routinely come out (without correcting them) nearly a quartertone off! It's extremely difficult to correct the pitch of an instrument that much, so even after correcting them, those notes almost always end up much more than a comma off. And this is otherwise a high-quality instrument (Yamaha YSS-675, retailing for well over $3000), and at least one historically very good repairman couldn't find anything wrong with it! So my point is this: I agree that there are intriguing subtleties for sustained chords down in the 1-cent-resolution range. But it's very important to understand that people in general are used to VASTLY more "slop" in pitch than that. They don't routinely operate down in the pitch-discrimination realm of single cents for normal-speed music. I therefore personally find more intrigue in tunings that produce entirely different intervals (e.g., 9:7 instead of 5:4), or entirely different scale structures (e.g., no meaningful approximation to a diatonic scale). To me personally, entirely new harmonic resources and melodic scale structures are more interesting than one- to five-cent distinctions of the temperament of a well-known scale structure.