source file: m1533.txt Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:58:51 EDT Subject: Re: scale derived by intersection of sets From: DFinnamore@aol.com Hi Bob! Bob Lee wrote: >12/7 and 7/4. Can you form beatless harmonies with these >and other notes of the scale? Absolutely, at least with the 7/4 you can. I hear musicians do it all the time without even knowing they're doing it. I frequently record a dobro player, Johnny Bellar, whom I deem to be the best musician I've ever met, who uses 7-limit just sonorities as a matter of course. You may have heard him doing so in commercial jingles if you listen to country radio. I've tried to strike up discussions with him about how he chooses his tunings. He just shakes his head in bewilderment when I describe it numerically. He does it strictly by ear. >I'm having a hard time imaging their use, >maybe because I'm basically a 5-limit player. The 7/4 of 3/4, aka 21/16, is commonly sung by choral/background singers and played by (fretless) string players. It's frequently the most natural tuning of the minor seventh in a dominant seventh chord: 3/4 - 15/16 - 9/8 - 21/16 That can be reduced to 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 Simple, elegant, and deliciously consonant - as are virtually all 3- and 4-member consecutive harmonic-series tones, provided that they span a total interval at least a fifth of an octave wide or so (based on my experience only - could someone prove/disprove/refine?), otherwise regardless of the "limit," prime or odd. Naturally, the plain 7/4 can occur in a I-7 whenever that chord functions as dominant seventh to the IV chord, as in a so-called false modulation. AFAIK, 12/7s are a bit more rare. There's at least one good reason to use them aside from making maximally consonant dom. 7ths: they add very deep and beautiful colors to the harmonic texture. All: BTW, sorry I haven't yet reported on that guitar device for steel-like bending, as I promised. It's been a very busy couple of weeks (thankfully!) and I haven't gotten out to MARS yet. Hopefully soon. David J. Finnamore Just tune it! ------------------------------ End of TUNING Digest 1533 *************************