source file: m1587.txt Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:05:53 -0800 Subject: MOS and Rothenberg From: Carl Lumma I've been pondering the relationship between the MOS and Propriety concepts recently. So I'm posting some questions to frighten and amuse. I'm aware that Clough formalized a lot of the MOS stuff, but I wouldn't know where (or what) to get of his work. Also, I'm not sure how best to get Rothenberg's work... >>has "stability" of 1.0 and "efficiency" of .7407. > >Shame on me, but I don't even know what these measure signify. Help, >please. Or if the definitions of these terms appear in his 1969 paper "A Pattern Recognition Model Applied to the Perception of Pitch". Frog Peak or somebody ought to distribute this stuff. So the following is based only on correspondence with Wilson, and Chalmer's excellent XH3 article "The Application of Rothenberg's Pattern Recognition Model to the Structure of Tetrachords and Tetrachordal scales" (and its version appearing in Divisions of the Tetrachord)... 1. If A and B are the two unique interior intervals of a MOS, then Chalmers has given that the scale is improper when A/B > 2 or < 1/2, proper when A/B = 2 or 1/2, and strictly proper when 1/2 < A/B < 2. But can anyone give a formula that gives the propriety of a MOS using just its generator and interval of equivalence, and show why it works? 2. Can a proper scale with one and only one ambiguous interval in each mode exist? 3. What about a proper scale with one and only one ambiguous interval in each interval (steps) class? 4. Can somebody show a method for finding which tunings will support a given rank-order matrix? Preferably one that works on both just and equal step scales? Carl