source file: m1586.txt Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 04:42:02 EST Subject: Emotional response upon first hearing harmonious polyphonic music From: Ascend11@aol.com Judith Conrad wrote: "...I once read a 19th century book on native american music out of my public library. It was written by some missionary, who brought a piano out to North Dakota or some such place. He would have the native singers sing him their favorite songs, and then he would figure out how to 'harmonise them properly.' So thrilled would they be by finding out thereby what their music was supposed to sound like, he reported, that they would immediately begin to drum along. Sometimes, they would be so transported into ecstasies by the revelation of his piano playing, that they would drum louder and louder -- sometimes to the point where he could no longer HEAR his piano playing!" The response of the Indians in North Dakota upon hearing their songs harmonized on a piano, which I suspect might have been almost their very first exposure to polyphonic music, reminds me of some things I read in music history books giving reports of responses of people in Europe to developments in polyphonic music in the middle ages and early renaissance. First there were contemporary reports dating from about 1200 AD, at which time three and four part sung music, as contrasted with two part music, began to be performed by choirs of monks at the Notre Dame church in Paris. These reports spoke of people "shuddering in the doorways" of the church awestruck by this new fuller sounding music which was just starting to be performed. Then, from a later time, there were several reports from the early 1400s speaking of the beautiful singing of English choirs travelling on the European continent. I believe that these English singers were effectively using consonant 4:5:6:8 triadic harmonies, which created a different emotional effect than did the harmonies of the late Ars Nova music familiar to continental listeners at that time, which I believe would have had less consonant thirds. It seems to me that the fact that the Indians responded very enthusiastically to the sounds of their music deepened by the full harmonies of the piano is evidence which tends to support the belief that although not all peoples have developed a polyphonic music, there is something about full chordal harmony in music which is naturally appealing to people everywhere and which people will gladly incorporate into their music when they have once experienced it. On a slightly different train of thought - I've found some arrangements for native American songs published in Mexico in 1951. Below the title of the first arrangement for piano and voice is the annotation: "Reduccion para canto y piano del son anterior". Would someone on this list be able to suggest more explicitly what is likely to have been meant by "piano del son anterior" which I translate literally into English as "piano having the former sound" ? Dave Hill, La Mesa, CA