source file: m1606.txt Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:37:02 -0500 Subject: RE: Hypertones, counterset & other weird microanimals (fwd) From: "Paul H. Erlich" Stephen brings up two important properties of the diatonic scale that are not shared by my scale (a set of 10 in 22-tET). One is motivated (perhaps) my a property I demand in my paper, that the scale be completely covererable by three consonant chords. Stephen aptly points out that in the diatonic case, this is often done using the I, IV, and V chords. Another important example is I, II, and V; also I, IV, and VII is often found in dorian or mixolydian rock music. All of these are examples of three consecutive chords in a chain of fifths. Many rock tunes, however, are based on three consecutive chords in the scale, such as VI, VII, I in minor. So I don't view it as a great disadvantage that my scale isn't covered by the tonic, subdominant, and dominant chords. In fact, I recently stated on the List (with regard to my contest to find another diatonic-like scale) that the property of coverability by three consonant chords was not very important to me. In fact, I only included it in my paper as a way of ruling out overly "complicated" scales, such as 14 out of 26-tET, which I would otherwise have to consider. I am now very happy to consider it, even though the (lack of) clarity with which 4 or 5 chords might project a set of 14 notes clearly presents a formidable compositional challenge. Another property is that in the diatonic scale, any two triads can be linked using only common tones and single-step-motion voice leading (this was pointed out by Agmon). This is not true for the tetrads in the decatonic scale. However, common practice music does not always progress in this simple way -- passing tones and leaps are quite common, and without them, one would have very little freedom in realizing a chord progression or harmonizing a melody. So again, my scale posesses no great disadvantage -- certain chord progressions will necessitate passing tones or leaps. Decatonic melody will therefore be more active than diatonic melody, in line with the greater number of tones that need to be kept fresh in the mind of the listener. As for "hypertones", I'm sure some very interesting music could be made using this principle, particularly if each hypertone is associated with a particluar timbre. But I would still want to make sure that the ordinary "tones" making up the hypertones were forming good melodies, or at least not forming awkward ones, since we are in some sense wired up for speech recognition, and the human voice can only produce tones (i.e. a fundamental and its harmonics, plus noise), not hypertones.