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 71 
 on: January 15, 2011, 05:41:10 PM 
Started by vaisvil - Last post by Robert Walker
Hi Chris,

Thanks for sharing!

Looks like a useful example for anyone involved in a similar project - with the full size screen shot to help show how everything is set up in Sonar to make it work.

Great also that you have found a way to do what you wanted - to use FTS to do microtonal retuning with Sonar on a 64 bit machine.

Enjoyed the muscal example Smiley.

Thanks!

Robert

 72 
 on: January 15, 2011, 03:55:07 PM 
Started by Robert Walker - Last post by Robert Walker
Hi Everyone,

These are all practical things I could add to in Bounce Metronome.

So -which of them interests you most?

Some need a bit of explanation probably
  • Pitch bounces - the idea is an effect slightly pitched like sound of the wind, rises and falls with the bounce, and gets softer and louder too so most noticeable just before the note needs to be played. Could be version of the bounce for blind musicians or if you aren't looking at the bouncing balls.
  • abc notation -special text format for entering notes. Also quite a few tunes already available in this format in on-line abc libraries. Bounce Metronome then would be able to play the tune. It's for the Drum & Dance view which already has stripped down version of abc just for rhythms. Wouldn't be able to edit a score directly.  For more about abc see Wiki article: Abc notation.
  • You can already get the beats from a recording in the Beta - click on the start of the beat in visual display of the recording - works well enough when you know what to do - but needs a lot work before it is user friendly. Expect to do that soon and it's a feature asked for several times by e-mail. Once it is ready there are various ways it could be used.
There's more about some of these ideas in the wish list. Also quite a few other wishes, couldn't put them all in the one poll.

You can find the full wish list here: Bounce Metronome Wish Lst . Or any questions about them or ideas just ask away or say what's on your mind Smiley.

Add your own wishes

Any wishes of your own be sure to say!

I've done many of the earlier wishes in the last two years as you'll see from the wish list and also done many more as a result of e-mails which never got into the wish list as I just did them.  

So - your wishes for Bounce Metronome can come true Smiley.

Poll background.

I am sent so many wishes by e-mail and thought it would be nice to get the same thing happening on-line in the forum if I can. It's a nice way to engage with the users of the program.

This poll is just to get some feedback and start a discussion.

Obviously whether a wish is actually programmed, and how soon it can be done depends on many factors including how easy a feature is to program and whether it fits in with other stuff.

For instance soon there will be a new option to get beats from a recording by clicking on it visually - itis already programmed in the beta and works with the bounce on a lyric (karaoke style) - not yet ready for release. So I'll be doing something there for sure but details not clear yet.

Things I can't do it right away usually go into the wish list - along with a note of some of the main issues and some ideas of how it could be done, if I have any immediate thoughts about those.

Also if you have any ideas for polls like this one do say, could be fun to do a few more.

Thanks,

Robert

 73 
 on: January 12, 2011, 10:03:50 AM 
Started by vaisvil - Last post by vaisvil

Here I detail how I used FTS to on the fly retune a midi stream and capture the re-tuned stream in Sonar 8.5
http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=404

With music example






 74 
 on: December 16, 2010, 05:17:48 PM 
Started by ThinAirDesigns - Last post by Robert Walker
First sorry for delay in reply. It's an issue with forum notifications, so sometimes miss posts here.

I expect what has happened is you changed the selected part in the tempo dial before you re-opened the rhythm. If so then purely visual - if you saved it with tempo set to say 60 for 4/4 then select the measure beat part and then re-open, will show tempo as 15 - but  it is the same rhythm at same tempo just showing different information about it.

Just tested it here and all seems fine.

If that's not it then maybe it is a bug - please elaborate and say more and I'll follow it up and if a bug, fix it.

Thanks,

Robert

 75 
 on: December 07, 2010, 11:29:35 AM 
Started by ThinAirDesigns - Last post by ThinAirDesigns
I am a beginning drummer.  I am looking for a metronome that allows me to set up and save rhythms (all params) for recall.

It looked like this software would do the trick and from the menu selection a simple "Save Rhythm As ..." and then "Open Rhythm" would suffice.

Unfortunately, when I save and then reload even a simple 4/4 beat, it doesn't even come up necessarily with the same tempo as saved.

I'd guess I'm doing something wrong here, but I would also think that a simple "save" and "open" feature would work as I expected -- reloading all the params.

Where have I gone wrong?

Thanks.
JB

 76 
 on: November 08, 2010, 08:41:53 PM 
Started by Robert Walker - Last post by joealex
hi.....
thnx for the tips.

 77 
 on: October 31, 2010, 09:10:54 PM 
Started by Robert Walker - Last post by Rickeyjt
Glad to hear that the fractal pieces help facilitate free play play-along!


Being a drummer first, I can't tell you how much these programs rock for free play.
eleven limit pentatonic tubular bells - yeah!
harmonic fractional polyrhythms golden ratio - oh yeah!

I don't know that I really need my iPhone to do all this FTS on demand.  I can record it and reuse it pretty easily if I need to but the metronome sure.

 78 
 on: October 31, 2010, 07:31:41 PM 
Started by Rickeyjt - Last post by Robert Walker
Just closing tabs in my browser, and found your link here as one of the open tabs - it's an example of the conducting patterns with some of the beats above the horizontal plane

The Conducting Beat Patterns

So, I hope to add options to let users program patterns like this if it's their preference - by recording or tracing patterns or some such as in the wish list.

 79 
 on: October 31, 2010, 07:09:33 PM 
Started by Robert Walker - Last post by Robert Walker
Thanks for your feedback!

Still don't know for sure how I'll approach it though definitely plan to give it a go when I have the chance. But one idea is to do it as html5, as that matures. Which should work on iPhone hopefully.

Not given any thought to fractals on mobile devices, that's a whole new ball game. But I suppose once I have a metronome app, if that all gets sorted out could start to think further afield. Glad to hear that the fractal pieces help facilitate free play play-along!


 80 
 on: October 31, 2010, 06:57:02 PM 
Started by Rickeyjt - Last post by Robert Walker
The actual patterns I use are from Brock McElheran's Conducting Technique.

If you look at e.g. the Wikipedia patterns, which are fairly similar:


the dots on the diagram show when the actual beat happens. So the downbeat in that diagram is actually at the bottom of the upstroke not the top of it - the dot with the 1 next to it.

Although the conductor raises the baton high just before the downbeat, as I understand it the actual moment of the downbeat is at the bottom of the stroke not the top of it. Though - conductors conduct well ahead of the orchestra especially in orchestral music and the downstroke is fast. So you mightn't notice such an enormous difference if you thought the moment was nearer the top.

You get patterns with some of the beats above the horizontal plane, which I could have used. The ones from "Conducting Technique" have all the beats on the horizontal plane -and he makes a point of that as the basis for his system. So - as a widely used book, and one that is easy to program, that's why I chose that method for BM Pro.

So - BM Pro actually follows a fairly similar pattern to those ones in Wikipedia - in the case of the 6/8 then the 6 is positioned midway between the 4 and the 5. In the McEllheran book then the 6 is shown between the 4 and the 5 but much closer to the 4 than the 5, and on the same plane. But - very similar pattern anyway, best approximation I could make to it without complex programming. And - don't do the loop type effects at the bottom of the bounce that you get on some of the patterns - e.g. the loop for the 3 in that pattern and the gentle curves for all the numbers - does it rather as a sharp bounce, just because that's easier to do in software while for hand movements then as there is nothing to bounce the baton on, you are moving it in mid-air, one can understand why a loop type effect is easier.

But in the future I plan to add an option to record a conducting pattern - either use a diagram or mouse, or something - and play it back - which could then let you conduct however you like and then use that pattern from then on for the rhythm you conducted it for.

If anyone here knows more about all this and I have misunderstood anything or want to correct me please step in. I'm no expert I know!

Some of the ideas for the future for the conducting patterns here:
Custom conductor patterns (wish list)
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