source file: mills2.txt Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:42:38 -0800 Subject: Approximation to Pierce-Bohlen From: COUL@ezh.nl (Manuel Op de Coul) This is a "wet finger" approximation to the Pierce-Bohlen scale. The second column shows the difference in cents. 1: 12/11 4.332829 3/4-tone 2: 33/28 -8.161428 3: 9/7 -3.828599 septimal major third 4: 7/5 -2.704731 septimal diminished fifth 5: 32/21 -2.302062 wide fifth 6: 5/3 6.533331 major sixth 7: 9/5 -6.533331 just minor seventh 8: 63/32 2.302062 octave - septimal comma 9: 15/7 2.704731 major diatonic semitone + 1 octave 10: 7/3 3.828599 minimal 10th 11: 28/11 8.161428 12: 11/4 -4.332829 harmonic augmented fourth + 1 octave 13: 3/1 -0.000000 perfect 12th So a 3:5:7:9 chord involves pitch classes 0-6-10-13. Marcus writes: > I realize that we can do NonJust Equal Temperament, Just Non Equal Temperament > (what others are there?). All combinations are possible, Just Equal Temperament is rarely used, an example is: 1: 9/8 203.9100 major whole tone 2: 81/64 407.8201 Pythagorean major third 3: 729/512 611.7302 Pythagorean tritone 4: 6561/4096 815.6403 Pythagorean augmented fifth 5: 59049/32768 1019.550 Pythagorean augmented sixth 6: 531441/262144 1223.460 Pythagorean comma + 1 octave And non-just non-equal-temperament is what Brian has been writing about a lot. > Would you (or anybody on the list) mind elaborating scale construction base on > partial frequency formulas? i.e., Given the really neat partial freq ratios > that mclaren described, how do I construct a scale from them? You can just take the same frequencies, or a subset of them, or divide the larger ones by a power of 2 to octave reduce them. > For 12TET, did someone merely lay out the harmonic series to some order, > octave transpose them, and then make a best fit to a 2^(n/12) scale > (discarding partials 7,11,13 in this case)? It has been known for a very long time and there are different ways to structure 12-tET. It can be viewed as a cycle of tempered fifths, as the completion of the diatonic scale, which on its turn can be viewed as three triads a fifth apart, or as a shorter cycle of fifths, etc. So the third harmonic alone is enough to get 12-tET, by ignoring the Pythagorean comma. Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl Received: from eartha.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by vbv40.ezh.nl with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:46 +0100 Received: from by eartha.mills.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id QAA10273; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:46:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:46:15 -0800 Message-Id: <951118004332_71670.2576_HHB45-4@CompuServe.COM> Errors-To: madole@ella.mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu