source file: mills3.txt Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:19:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Liminatory Fulminations From: mr88cet@texas.net (Gary Morrison) >...several persons have...asserted that people can be >trained to make essential melodic distinctions as fine as 10-20 cents. >I do not believe this for a moment. Were this so, then even the simplest >of our melodies would disintegrate into unrecognizable, essentially >different melodies every time a different singer rendered them. It sounds like you're confusing different melodies with tuning subtlties. Suppose you were to listen to me on my soprano saxophone right after I've warmed up and started playing some piece I'm working on. Then suppose you were to hear me play that same piece after an hour and a half when my lips have the saxophonist's equivalent of a charliehorse. Assuming that I execute that melody note-for-note correctly both times, the chances are that you'll notice two things: 1. It's the same melody. 2. It sure as heck was better in tune the first time! Certainly you'll identify it as the same melody both times, but equally certainly you'll identify it as sounding different. Are those 10-20-cent differences musically significant? Well, they are very clearly audible, so it's pretty hard to deny that have at least the potential to be musically significant. SMTPOriginator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: Gregg Gibson Subject: 19-tone Equal Notation PostedDate: 16-12-97 06:33:28 SendTo: CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH ReplyTo: tuning@eartha.mills.edu $MessageStorage: 0 $UpdatedBy: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=coul1358/OU=AT/O=EZH,CN=Manuel op de Coul/OU=AT/O=EZH RouteServers: CN=notesrv2/OU=Server/O=EZH,CN=notesrv1/OU=Server/O=EZH RouteTimes: 16-12-97 06:31:27-16-12-97 06:31:27,16-12-97 06:31:07-16-12-97 06:31:07 DeliveredDate: 16-12-97 06:31:07 Categories: $Revisions: Received: from ns.ezh.nl ([137.174.112.59]) by notesrv2.ezh.nl (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id C125656F.001E5653; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:33:18 +0100 Received: by ns.ezh.nl; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16563; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:33:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:33:28 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu by ns (smtpxd); id XA16525 Received: (qmail 16117 invoked from network); 15 Dec 1997 21:33:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (HELO ella.mills.edu) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Dec 1997 21:33:24 -0800 Message-Id: <349674FE.2419@ww-interlink.net> Errors-To: madole@mills.edu Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu