source file: m1437.txt Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:45:07 -0500 Subject: Re: magic chord From: "Benjamin Tubb" On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:37:35 -0400, Paul H. Erlich wrote: >I was playing around with a harmonica sound on my Ensoniq VFX-SD tuned as close as possible to JI (the scale being the JI version of the pentachordal decatonic scale of my paper, hence 12 notes per octave with two 50:49 "commas"). Playing the chord 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4, and dropping the 3/2 down to 7/5, I didn't hear much of an increase in dissonance. After some confusion, I realized that the only potentially dissonant interval in this chord is the 28:25 (196 cents) between 5/4 and 7/5. The difference between 5/4 and 7/5 is 23:20 which is 241.961 cents. >Now the Ensoniq's tuning tables allow cents values for each note, and I had approximated the other intervals in such a way that the 28:25 was nominally represented by 199 cents. 28:25 coverts to 196.198 cents. >Since the true tuning resolution of the Ensoniq VFX-SD is 512 notes per octave, this interval was probably represented by 85/512 octave, or 199.2 cents. 85[+512] : 512 converts to 265.905 cents. >This is only 4.7 cents off a just 9/8, which explains the relative consonance of the chord. 9:8 converts to 203.91 cents which is a difference from 265.903 of 61.993 cents. >It is a near miss to a saturated 9-limit chord. A true 28/25 would be 7.7 cents off a just 9/8, which would be quite a bit more dissonant. 28:25 converts to 196.98 cents which is a difference from 203.91 (for 9:8) of 6.93 cents. >The difference between 28/25 and 9/8 is 225/224, a fundamental comma-like interval in Fokker's writings. The difference between 28:25 and 9:8 is 201:200. I use the following Mathematica formulas and its Rationalize[] function for all conversions. cent2rat[cents_]:=10.^((Log[10,2]/1200) cents) rat2cent[ratio_]:=1200/Log[10,2] Log[10,ratio] ------------- Benjamin Tubb brtubb@cybertron.com http://home.cybertron.com/~brtubb