Intro - Archive Zip - Help using the archive - Add Posts - Delete posts - Archive of just your own posts
This is an archive for the tuning-math list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/
Please note that this is a discussion in progress. It is a forum and not a journal, much though it may seem like a journal from the nature of some of the posts :-). None of the posts should be considered to represent final conclusions or views of the posters. If you have any questions, be sure to join the forum and ask the members. I'm sure they will be delighted to answer your questions about their research, instrument making, music composition, programming, or whatever their speciality is, in the field of tuning and microtonal music.
All the posts are copyright © and copyright remains with the original posters of the messages.
Incidentally if you wonder why the numbers suddenly jump to 1000 and why it is in two sections, Tuning-Math and Tuning-Math Digests, that is just for practical reasons. There are no missing messages. The first few messages were downloaded directly from Yahoo, while the later messages were extracted from digests. The leap in numbers happens to make things easier for the program used to generate the archive.
You can download a zip of the entire archive here:
If new to zips - it just means a compressed file, to reduce the download size. All the contents of this archive got compressed into a single file.
Downlooad the file (usually Right Click + Save As) to the place where you want the archive to be. Then open your downloaded file to uncompress the archive. Finally navigate to the index.html file within the folder you just opened and you will be able to view the archive off-line.
If you are using Windows you can make a desktop shortcut by using Right Click + Copy on the index.html file, then Right Click + Paste Shortcut on the desktop.
Most modern operating systems will already have capabilities to unzip the archive. If not however, you need to find an unzip utility. One of the best known for Windows is Win Zip which is available for unlimited free evaluation (with reminders). There are many other unzip utilities, some of them completely free.
This archive has been indexed in a way that makes it easy to jump to related posts. It is organised in sections of 1000 posts to keep the number of posts in each section manageable.
You can navigate inwards from the contents list to the message that interests you. Or you can navigate outwards to find related messages.
Click on the subject of the post and it will take you to a list of all messages in that section of the archive, ordered by subject, for your choice. At that point, you can also click on the * next to the subject, which takes you out to the list of all the threads for the section. The threads list and subject list are essentially the same thing - however, the threads list shows only the first occurrence of each subject in the subjects list.
Authors work the same way. The Individuals list shows the first post by that individual, while the Authors list shows all their posts. The dates list however only takes you out as far as the list of dates for the section - that is because the dates don't repeat so the dates list for the entire archive would be enormous.
You can also navigate outwards from the links list to find similar links that have been given by other posters. The links are organised by url which usually means that you will find all the links to the same domain grouped together.
Many links show titles. Sometimes though the program wasn't able to follow the link to find the title - in that case, usually you will be given the option to search for it in the Wayback Machine. Sometimes it is unable to recognise the "Not Found" message if unusual in format - e.g usually the message is returned in English, but if it is in another language it may not be recognised. Here is another link to the Wayback Machine if you need to do the search yourself (you can usually copy the url to paste into the Wayback Machine using Right Click + copy shortcut or some such).
You only see titles for web pages and text files. When there is no title line, or if it is a text file, the first lne of text is shown instead (however, it skips lines all of a single character).
In the case of binary files such as pdfs, mp3s etc, the program isn't able to check the titles. However, it can check the first few characters of the file to make sure it is the type of file expected. You will see - OK shown after the file for many binary file types - this confirms that at the time they were indexed, the file existed and was of the expected type.
You are very welcome to add your posts if you have posted to this list at any time. To do so just contact: Robert Walker and say that you want your posts included, and I will be delighted to add them next time the archive gets updated.
It is an opt in archive.The archive posts will be visible to search engines. A zip of the entire archive will also be made available for download. Later it may get included on a CD for distribution to tuning members and intersted tuning enthusiasts.
There is absolutely no obligation to include your posts. Some members prefer their posts to be left out for excellent reasons.
If you want to delete a post from the archive, make a list of the dates to delete.
It is easiest if you can copy the original date field exactly as it is complete with date and time. To do this: copy and paste the date field from the archive (e.g. highlight it on the web page, use Ctrl + C to copy, then Ctrl + V to paste).
By way of example, this is my list of entries to delete for the Tuning list (deletes a message that I posted to Tuning instead of MakeMicroMusic by accident, and my follow up message to apologise for it)
" Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:42:46 Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:46:15 "
If you can't do it that way, for whatever reason, just tell me what dates you want to delete and I'll make the list for you.
Again, send your deleted posts requests to: Robert Walker
Deleted posts simply don't appear in the archive at all. This can be a useful way to remove posts that are purely ephemeral in nature.
This is worth doing as it will increase the usefulness of the archive for those looking for information on tuning theory and practice. Please don't hesitate to delete posts of this nature. Naturally you can only delete posts you made yourself.
You can also request an archive with just your posts in it, e.g. for working up with a view to publication. Again, contact Robert Walker with your request.
This option is available to everyone, whether or not you want your posts included in this public archive.